Is this the correct way to handle the disabled?

[davidc4430]

Melbourne police captured on video taking down disability pensioner

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-03/melbourne-police-on-video-taking-down-disability-pensioner/959...

[domino-710]

Just to add.

I had ' dealings ' with our local constabulary Sunday night - saw a couple of dudes ride - what turned out to be something like a dirt bike - no plates - onto the spare block next door - stash the bike & leave.

The two ' officers ' attending after my call - I must admit would have given the Michellin Tyre Man - a run for his money.

The ' lady officer ' I swear was only grounded by the hardware on her belt.

Thought there was a ' build ' ' height ' - etc - to even get into the force.

Anyhow - they made up with arrogance - that which they lacked in stature.

[imastawka]

No height requirement anymore, Dom

They take whatever they can get these days.

[domino-710]

And to think I missed out on being a waitress on an airplane - height was 5'8".

I could have been ' The Force '.

PS. Ooaksy is beside herseelf. 

[travlyn2012]

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@domino-710wrote:

Just to add.

I had ' dealings ' with our local constabulary Sunday night - saw a couple of dudes ride - what turned out to be something like a dirt bike - no plates - onto the spare block next door - stash the bike & leave.

The two ' officers ' attending after my call - I must admit would have given the Michellin Tyre Man - a run for his money.

The ' lady officer ' I swear was only grounded by the hardware on her belt.

Thought there was a ' build ' ' height ' - etc - to even get into the force.

Anyhow - they made up with arrogance - that which they lacked in stature.

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NSW changed the criteria regarding height etc, years ago, it would be over 20 years at least.

A person I knew was in the first group at the academy that came under the new regulations. He was only about 5'5".

Police investigating police should not be permitted.  In Nsw, the Ombudsman's office were the primary investigators.

Last year this changed and was passed of to the LECC (law enforcement conduct commission) and then, only for serious complaints, a criteria must be met for them to investigate.

If this incident happened in Nsw, I assume it would meet the criteria of  the LECC. Most other complaints received, are sent to the area command for investigation. 

Not hard to understand the problems that could cause, especially for the complainant. 

In this case, the video evidence, together with sound, should be enough for them to be removed from the force.

[davidc4430]

i dont care much what shape a police person is as long as they do their job professionally and if they dont know the law about something they get someone who does to join the conversation.

police need to be people your comfotable calling with a problem you think requires police aid. not be thinking, well i would like to call the police but i'm frightened i will end up on my front lawn in handcuffs and having pepperspray squirted out of my eyes.

[imastawka]

Found another report on this.

Found out it's my local mob.  Surprised?     Not in the least.

If 6 of them are suspended it'll clean the place out.

[myoclon1cjerk]

I hope his lawyer gets him a bundle.

[davidc4430]

ok, so i watched the story on abc 7.30, it was quite sickening, watching it on a big screen.

and the man interviewed from the police, about as thick as 2 short planks.

all the excuses under the sun, but of course these cases were rare. well rare yes, only a few have been caught on video.

until the one with the disabled man was released he was fobbed off, nothing to see here folks. now suddenly everyone can see him brutalised on his front lawn its 'oh, we need to reinvestigate'.

and so because its being reinvestigated he wouldnt be able to discuss it. good out there.

my question is, what needs investigating? there is 6 police officers who need to be looking for new employment. but i suspect these are the kinds of police they want, ones that 'get the job done' regardless of how.

lets just hope no one records it huh?

so who was to know the guy had CCTV?

i bet someone somewhere is saying "and we would have gotten away with it if it wasnt for those pesky cameras!"

[not_for_sale2025]

Based upon the article the police handled this issue badly and with some cruelty. However, I will be interested to see if any more details are released about the circumstances. For example "He has anxiety and depression and his health carers called emergency services, concerned by his deteriorating mental state". How was his mental state deteriorating and what behaviours was he exhibiting that caused concern for the carers? Most NGO carers call the police when there is danger. What else did they say to the police? Carers mainly call for an ambulance when the client is physically injured or has injured someone else. This is directed by Policy and Procedure. Of course there are exceptions.

No excuses for the police IMO, but I suspect there is more to this than has been revealed.

[davidc4430]

you need to watch the abc 7.30 program

he was coming off some heavy meds after back surgery, his 'carers' called to get some help taking him to hospital if he needed to get there. why not call an ambulance i dont know. if they needed to call anyone.

as he wasnt actually a threat to anyone, apart from maybe himself. i dont get why anyone was called.

it was a screw up of biblical proportions, sending 6 cops, telling them to expect trouble! but not saying, well lets get someone with medical knowledge there as well, good idea guys?

from the moment they got out of their cars they were on a collision course for abusing that man. hes in his own house, they have no evidence hes harming himself or anyone else. but they start breaking the door down!

if i had 6 cops trying to get into my house i might be a bit crazy too!

as it turns out he definately had reason to be frightened.

what if someone called the cops on me, said that dave guy is doing drugs and is likely to hurt himself or someone else?

 i sure hope i dont get those 6 cops banging my door down.

btw, i think the man needs to fire his 'carers' their not up to the job.