Jackarta Willing to Talk about tow backs

In my opinion it's our business if we want to turn boats around. They are Indonesian boats, crewed by Indonesians, participating in people smuggling.

 

We have the right to protect our borders & nobody can tell us what to do re safeguarding our country.

 

Indonesia know this.

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/jakarta-opens-door-to-talk-about-tow-ba...

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It has been reported that Indonesia have not gone to the aid of refugees in boats they have been reported as standing by & watching as people drown.

 

The was discussed yesterday on radio. I am appalled that a country like Indonesia would do this but apparently it's true but not reported on for fear of offending Indonesia.

 

So we enter their waters to rescue their boats crewed by their prople.

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I am disheartened and saddened by yet another loss of life (4). How could this happen while being escorted by Australian officials in our waters? Surely our trained and experienced officials could have prevented it by transferring the asylum seekers to the safety of the the officials boat? Yes the weather had turned and the information known prior, so why keep escorting an already over laden boat? Disgraceful

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@twinkles**stars wrote:

I am disheartened and saddened by yet another loss of life (4). How could this happen while being escorted by Australian officials in our waters? Surely our trained and experienced officials could have prevented it by transferring the asylum seekers to the safety of the the officials boat? Yes the weather had turned and the information known prior, so why keep escorting an already over laden boat? Disgraceful


 Disgraceful that you disparage Australia's navy personnel before you check facts.

 

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@polksaladallie wrote:

Who's Jack?

 


John Farnham - as in Whispering Jack. Man Wink

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@polksaladallie wrote:

@twinkles**stars wrote:

I am disheartened and saddened by yet another loss of life (4). How could this happen while being escorted by Australian officials in our waters? Surely our trained and experienced officials could have prevented it by transferring the asylum seekers to the safety of the the officials boat? Yes the weather had turned and the information known prior, so why keep escorting an already over laden boat? Disgraceful


 Disgraceful that you disparage Australia's navy personnel before you check facts.

 


Facts? Fact is this was preventable had officials taken action earlier IMO They were able to rescue the surviving ones yet not take appropriate action before the event? And why were life vests not supplied to these poor people? Other rescues I have seen it was noted that all were given life vests....so our ships carry a supply of them?

 

Four asylum-seekers died after a people-smuggling ship carrying around 150 passengers capsized yesterday off Australia’s remote Christmas Island, triggering a major rescue operation.

The Australian Customs and Border Protection Service said the vessel overturned as it was being escorted in heavy weather to the island by two navy ships, after issuing a distress call earlier in the day.

“HMAS Warramunga rescued 76 people from the water and HMAS Albany rescued 68 people from the water. Tragically, four deceased persons were recovered,” Customs said in a statement.

“It is believed that there were approximately 150 people on board based on an assessment of information provided by the vessel’s crew. This number has been revised downwards from an initial estimate of up to 180 people.”

A military aircraft managed to drop life rafts to those stranded in the water, many of whom were reportedly not wearing life-vests.

Customs said it had formally suspended rescue efforts at 9.38pm (1138 GMT) “based on the thorough search that had been undertaken”, with no further sign of survivors.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority said it had been “in contact with the vessel most of the day” and rough seas had prevented sailors from boarding the ship to investigate the cause of its difficulties before it went down, 70 nautical miles from the remote Christmas Island outpost.

Hundreds of asylum-seekers have drowned on the dangerous sea voyage to Australia in recent years when their flimsy and overloaded boats sank.

More than 13,000 asylum-seekers have arrived in Australia by boat since January 1, piling pressure on the ruling Labor party in an election year.

The politically-sensitive issue is likely to dominate the campaign ahead of national elections due later this year, with the conservative opposition vowing to “stop the boats” with a policy of towing vessels back to Indonesia - a proposal which has not been welcomed by Jakarta.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd dismantled the harsh refugee policies of the former conservative government after he was elected to office in 2007, but is now being accused of having lost control of Australia’s borders, with successive years of record refugee boat arrivals.

He advocates a regional solution to the problem and is expected to unveil new policies before announcing the election date, which must be before November 30.

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the capsizing under escort by 2 navy ships is an indication that 'turning them back ' is a bigger fantasy than ever.. the navy cant even get them here without problems.

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Facts? Fact is this was preventable had officials taken action earlier IMO They were able to rescue the surviving ones yet not take appropriate action before the event? And why were life vests not supplied to these poor people? Other rescues I have seen it was noted that all were given life vests....so our ships carry a supply of them?

 



The Australian Maritime Safety Authority said it had been “in contact with the vessel most of the day” and rough seas had prevented sailors from boarding the ship to investigate the cause of its difficulties before it went down, 70 nautical miles from the remote Christmas Island outpost.

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They board ships / boats in rough weather all the time....they are equiped to do so.

 

You expect them to own up to a mistake? Of course they wont. Imagine the outrage should it have been 4 Aussie sailors that lost their lives 😞

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still awaiting the names of the whole suburbs in Victoria of non working refugees.....................

 

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Don't hold your breath waiting for a response az.

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