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Jacqui Lambie's Indigenous heritage claims surprise members of Tasmania's Aboriginal community

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-08/anger-over-jacqui-lambies-aboriginal-claims/5728622

 

Palmer United Party Senator Jacqui Lambie has landed herself in another dispute, this time with leaders of Tasmania's Aboriginal community.

 

The outspoken Senate newcomer claimed in her maiden speech last week that she was related to, if not descended from, a prominent Aboriginal resistance leader of north-eastern Tasmania.

 

"I acknowledge and pay my respects to Australia's Aboriginal traditional owners. I share their blood, culture and history through my mother's, Sue Lambie's, family," Senator Lambie said.

 

"We trace our history over six generations to celebrated Aboriginal chieftain of the Tasmania east coast, Mannalargenna."

 

Clyde Mansell, a community elder and acknowledged direct descendant of Mannalargenna, said it was news to him. 

 

"That's my family. And she's not part of it," he said.

 

Mr Mansell, who is also chair of the Aboriginal Land Council of Tasmania, branded Senator Lambie's claims as "absolutely outrageous and scandalous".

 

"They're totally unfounded," he said. 

 

"There's no evidence that I'm aware of that would justify Jacqui Lambie standing up in the Australian Parliament and making those claims. She didn't have the right. 

 

"There was no reference back to the community about whom she's making this ridiculous claim.

 

"She had no idea what she was saying and couldn't even pronounce the name [Mannalargenna] properly."

 

Conflicting family trees

 

Senator Lambie provided some documents to Australian Story on Monday afternoon. 

 

A family tree indicates a lineage from one of Mannalargenna's granddaughters, Margaret (also known as Mary), who was the offspring of Mannalargenna's daughter Worretermoeteyenner and a sealer, George Briggs, who had abducted her.  

 

But that is where things become complicated.

 

This key ancestor in Senator Lambie's family tree, Margaret Briggs, is said to have married a Thomas Hite, with the rest of the family emanating from them. 

 

But there is no trace of a Thomas Hite in the Tasmanian archival records. 

 

 

And the Tasmanian Pioneer Index shows that Margaret Briggs died in 1839, aged 22, with no mention of a spouse or offspring, all of which is consistent with a detailed Briggs family genealogy.

 

Senator Lambie's family tree, however, says that Margaret Briggs married a Thomas Hite and had two children, one a daughter, Ann, who married William Aylett, and that this is the branch of the family from which the Lambies are descended.  

 

The documents provided to Australian Story include the findings of a 2002 Administrative Appeals Tribunal dispute relating to rights to participate in an ATSIC election. 

 

Claimants gave evidence that a pardoned convict, Samuel Hite, married another former convict, Mary Ann Pendrill, and that Samuel had a brother, Thomas Hite, who came to Tasmania as a sealer-sailor and took up with an Aboriginal woman. 

 

This pairing is said to have resulted in a daughter, Ann, born in 1837, who was taken in by Samuel Hite and his wife Mary Ann and recorded as their own. 

 

Ann went on to marry a William Aylett, and evidence was given that both are buried in the Jenner Cemetery at Wynyard, with Ann in the Aboriginal section and William in the white section. 

 

On this basis, the tribunal found that the claimants were "the descendants of Thomas Hite and an Aboriginal woman".

 

However, there remains the question of Ann Hite's parentage and any evidence to link her to Margaret Briggs or her grandfather Mannalargenna

 

And there remains mystery around Thomas Hite, with the tribunal acknowledging there was no record for him in the Tasmanian archives and there being no mention of him as a sealer in Brian Plomley's authoritative book covering the era, Friendly Mission.

 

Heather Sculthorpe, chief executive of the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre, said Senator Lambie's maiden speech was the first time she too had heard any suggestion that the senator had an Indigenous heritage.

 

"She's not known in the Aboriginal community and that statement was a shock to us," Ms Sculthorpe said. 

 

"These days if people don't know who their tribal ancestors are, they tend to claim Mannalargenna like they used to claim Truganini as their ancestor."

 

Mr Mansell is calling on Senator Lambie to produce evidence of her family tree so the validity of her claim can be tested. 

 

"She should present that evidence of her so-called Aboriginality to us because we are the relatives," he said.

 

More here http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-08/anger-over-jacqui-lambies-aboriginal-claims/5728622

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Jacqui Lambie ‘wants to be Queen of Australia’ says Dio Wang

 

PALMER United Party senator Dio Wang has spoken out over the row between rogue senator Jacqui Lambie and PUP leader Clive Palmer, attacking as “a disgrace” Senator Lambie’s proposal to vote no to all legislation over defence force pay and speculating that she wants to be Queen of Australia.

 

 

“Maybe she is frustrated that she is not a Queen of the country but the fact is we can only do what we can do and by her making such blunt statements publicly she is effectively putting the government in a corner and giving the government less room to move,” Mr Wang said in an interview on ABC radio in Perth today.

 

Mr Wang acknowledged his party had been damaged by the public fallout between Mr Palmer and the Tasmanian senator. Senator Lambie is at odds with the partyroom over her proposal that PUP should block all legislation until ADF members get a pay rise.

 

“It’s just that Senator Lambie is probably not very familiar with the internal party process and she came out to demand that all the senators, all PUP senators including the party leader, support her position which is for a good cause — we want better pay for ADF personnel and I even want better pay for teachers nurses and policemen — but saying no to all the legislation in the parliament is not the right way to do it.”

 

Mr Wang spoke after Mr Palmer yesterday challenged Senator Lambie over the party leadership.

Two crossbench senators — Bob Day and David Leyonhjelm — invited Senator Lambie to consider forming a new balance-of-power alliance with them after Mr Palmer called her a “drama queen” and expelled her chief of staff Rob Messenger from the Palmer United Party.

 

Mr Wang said: “When we get together as a team we need to figure out who is the most suitable as a leader … it’s not a question for me, I am pretty sure Clive Palmer is the better leader”.

 

Mr Wang said Ms Lambie was very passionate about certain issues and not very keen to hear different opinions on some issues.

“Of course I would want us to be as united as possible and to be frank with you having a parliamentarian getting paid two thousand grand (sic) a year taxpayer money for doing nothing but to vote no to everything is a disgrace,” he said.

 

“That’s the bit I don’t understand because we support better pay for personnel but Jacqui needs to understand we, as Senators, have limited powers.”

 

Mr Wang confirmed relations were now at the point where Mr Palmer and Senator Lambie were talking to each other through the media.

“That is the bit I am really frustrated about. If you were a mature party you would have talked to your party members and colleagues internally and try to sort out the problems internally,” he said.

 

“Jacqui needs to learn a bit how to work in a team and when it comes to a time that she was defeated in the party room and she should be comfortable to accept the defeat.

 

“Any issues take it to the party room let’s discuss it and if you are defeated in the party room don’t feel so bad.”

 

Mr Wang said he would be unhappy if Senator Lambie quit because he wanted the party to be reunited. He said he wanted her to be successful and not end up a sad story.

 

“I think the way it is headed it is a likely outcome,” he said.

 

Meanwhile Senator Lambie has hunkered down, declining to respond to any claims made by Senator Wang or her PUP colleagues.

 

“I’ll be focusing all my energies on getting a better deal for Tasmania, the ADF and our veterans,” she said.

 

In a newly released media statement revealing the wording of Senator Lambie’s draft private member’s bill, which would link any Defence pay increase to that given to politicians, the Tasmanian said a “lone voice” could still be influential.

 

“My critics have said that I’ll just be a lone voice in parliament,” she says. “But what they fail to understand is that, putting aside the unique make of today’s Senate, a lone voice, armed with the facts, passion and the truth in our parliament — a great chamber of democratic debate — can influence and change the course of history for the better.”

 

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/politics-news/jacqui-lambie-wants-to-be-queen-of-au...

 

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Seven News last night reported that Senator Lambie owed the department [of Veterans Affairs] $11,000 in compensation claims that she had been overpaid before entering parliament.


The spokesman did not deny there was a dispute, which has been ongoing since 2010, but said the amount of money in question had not been agreed upon.

 

 

 

Will Jacqui Lambie face legal action for compensation from Clive Palmer if she quits? Does that explain her strange refusal so far to formally resign from the party?

 

 

CLIVE PALMER:… We spent something like $600,000 or $700,000 in Tasmania in the last federal election to make sure we would get a senator-elect and our party members worked very hard for Jacqui. And I know she got 22,000 votes above the line from the PUP party and 1,500 below the line, so I think she’s a team player.

 

 

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Most people in Tasmania are saying good on herSmiley Wink

 

 

 

"I think the media is being a bit hard on her," he said. "She is courageous and that's a good thing."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jacqui-lambie-would-be-reelected-tasmanian-pol...

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Jacqui Lambie addicted to Botox, unlucky in love  a mother of two illegitimate children, on a disability pension for ten years, a drug and alcohol abuser, has an abusive father who assaulted a policeman, has a son who has been up before the same magistrate a dozen times (brags his mum), suffered depression and her army record is abysmal and she thinks she runs Australia.

 

 

Now mantter how much air brushing, botox and photoshop you cant  turn a EWE into MUTTON let alone lamb

 

As the saying goes You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig


DRAPED in an Australian flag, Tasmanian Senator Jacqui Lambie, 42, has revealed she’s into Botox and fillers to look younger describing the injections as “addictive”.

In a photo shoot inspired by her hero Pauline Hanson, Ms Lambie has posed for Australian Women’s Weekly’s January edition admitting she’s been single for over a decade.

 

She’s also confirmed her fondness for Botox and filler injections to keep her looking youthful.

 

“It’s addictive,’’ she says.

 

“It’s like, Oh My God, here comes a wrinkle again.’’

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/senator-jacqui-lambie-reveals-she-does-botox-and-is-lookin...

 

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So much photoshopping and so fake to turn above into this

 

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and her army record is abysmal

 

 

I would love for her ex soldiers to come out and say what is what.

 

Ireckon you would get some real insights into her.

 

 

 

 

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and her army record is abysmal

 

 

I would love for her ex soldiers to come out and say what is what.

 

Ireckon you would get some real insights into her.

 

 

 

 


 She was refered to as a TAIL LIGHT in the army according to an Army friend of mine...... 

 

The meaning of that (tail light) is that she wasnt smart enough to be a head light

 

She is according to some Army friends very disliked in the ADF at troop level and they dont want here trying to make political point scoring off them.

 

 

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Greer's big speech in the Senate ("There are no illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents!")

 

Blossoms In The Dust (1941)

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I notice the media says she was a Cpl (Corporal).

Well anyone knows that MP's have to be Cpl's otherwise they wouldn't outrank diggers so it kind of handed to her on a plate because she switched ECN's (or trades in civvy speak).

Doesn't surprise me she isnt liked at troop level.





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Wow, how low can some people go?

 

 

Someone's jealous that she got elected while they were a dismal failure.  The ugly is shining through from the inside.

 

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Wow, how low can some people go?

 

Hee is a Tshirt for you

 

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and can you go this low

 

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Someone's jealous that she got elected while they were a dismal failure.  The ugly is shining through from the inside.

 


 

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