Je Ne Suis Plus Charlie !

[the_great_she_elephant]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30583075/too-far-charlie-hebdo-drawing-sparks-outrage-online/

Some thing are just beyond sick! 

[Anonymous]

going by super nova's logic,

they could have been anti-neo-nazis

posing as syrian refugees. 

(what language did they speak?)

[Anonymous]

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@icyfroth wrote:

It means "I am not charlie"

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ok thanks.  the plus confused me. 

[Anonymous]

Interesting, because this sort of modus operandi was used by groups of gypsies for decades all over Europe.  I was warned about that 20 years ago when I lived in Europe for a year.  I was told about it by my freinds in Paris, I know people who were robbed by group of men who surrounded them going back almost 30 years, and my daughter and her husband were robbed on train in Athens in the same way..

So saying that it is Arab thing unknown in Europe is not true. 

are you saying gypsy men used

to organise mass sex assaults on

women?  

Monday's report into the attacks in Cologne says that the combination of group sexual violence with robbery had not previously been seen in Germany.

[Anonymous]

Sadly the neo nazis are milking it for all they can and gaining traction. 

of course they are.

were you expecting anything else?

that was the reason why the police 

initially did not report it.

Meanwhile, Finnish police reported an unusually high level of sexual harassment in Helsinki on New Year’s Eve and said they had been tipped off about plans by groups of asylum seekers to sexually harass women.

Helsinki’s deputy police chief, Ilkka Koskimaki, said: “There hasn’t been this kind of harassment on previous New Year’s Eves or other occasions for that matter … This is a completely new phenomenon in Helsinki.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/08/cologne-violence-suspects-include-asylum-seekers

[Anonymous]

earlier you were asking who was 

behind the attacks and why.

here you have a perfectly reasonable

explanation; certainly makes more

sense than your conspiracy theory.

understanding the motives will make

it easier to tackle the problem. 

(australia is known for its drinking

and sporting culture.  of course 

we're not all drunks and sports

fanatics.)

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

It means "I am not charlie"

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ok thanks.  the plus confused me. 

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It means "I am no longer Charlie." I am not Charlie would be "Je ne suis pas Charlie."

[***super_nova***]

What you are saying is that it is perfectly logical that young men that came from country that is being partially occupied by murderous ISIS and partially ruled by brutal dictator, as well as being bombed by the USA and Russia, would decided that the best thing to do is to organise coordinate crime wave, which will immediately end any chance of them being able to stay, despite the simple fact that they have nowhere to go and their whole future depends on being able to find country that would take them? 

I could understand if something like that would happen when group of  men gets drunk and things just develop; NOT that it would be excusable. 

To say that other Middle Eastern country should take the Syrian refugees in is just pure nonsense.  It's just like if some huge disaster happened in Australia and somebody would suggest that we could all just move to Tasmania, NZ and New Guinea.  They could not absorb 20 million people.  The countries surrounding Syria already have some 7 - 8 million Syrian refugees, they cannot cope with those already there.  And anybody who thinks the war in the region will end any time soon, is seriously deluded.  It will go on for years, and the area will be left affected by depleted uranium + plutonium.  Why would anybody who does not have want to go back to live there?

http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html

[esayaf]

Having been a young man. I can speak from some experience.
Not as far as to what they did but quite obviously there wasn't any thinking going on

[icyfroth]

How do you know they're really there for refuge? that they're actually from where they claim to be?

 And seeing no-one's been identified, they're probably pretty confident that they won't be caught.

[***super_nova***]

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@esayaf wrote:
Having been a young man. I can speak from some experience.
Not as far as to what they did but quite obviously there wasn't any thinking going on

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A.-   were you a young man that escaped from a war torn country, did you live in desperate conditions in refugee camp where the temperatures reach 40 degrees in summer and plunge bellow 0 in the winter?  Did you walk half across Europe  to get to a place where with bit of luck you could have a life?  Young people who have such an experience grow up very fast.

B.-   IF what happened was highly organised and co-ordinated, as is being claimed, then some thinking obviously must have gone into it