on 17-02-2022 05:46 PM
on 10-04-2022 01:02 AM
Social media amplifies this.
Most of the people having these unsightly, dangerous and body-distorting procedures want to be looked at noticed, and - well, not necessarily admired, but certainly regarded with... awe? horror? just that sense of being different...?
If they weren't being noticed, a lot of the impetus for having these cosmetic distortions would be gone.
Before online social media took off, there wasn't the theatre for showing off these results. It would be confined to showing off within one's family, work and social circle. Now... out go the photos and videos to an entire global community, and there'll be enough distorted minds there to give validation to the distorted imagery.
One of the most beautiful descriptions of how uniquely and complexly we are made as human beings is from the Book of Psalms:
❝...I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.❞
... but the cosmetic medical procedures deform the frame (removal of ribs - hideous!) and substance (turning mouths into what looks like a blister and sexual organs into monstrosities and buttocks into bulbous rotundas of concrete). From a medical standpoint - it's so dangerous. From the standpoint of unique beauty of individuality - it REMOVES uniqueness and doesn't celebrate how beautiful people are (instead going for some ridiculous universal concept of beauty OR some distorted attempt to turn exaggeration and a sick fantasy image into one's "true self" (uuuurgh)). From a human point of view - it's insulting and offensive to undergo surgical/medical procedures to remake oneself to such hideous degree.
John Donne - one of my favourite poets and in my opinion a most fascinating thinker - wrote
❝I am a little world made cunningly / Of elements, and an angelic sprite ;❞
All of that cunning craftsmanship in each person with his or her absolute uniqueness... that's all made a mockery of by these medical procedures.
In my view, cosmetic surgery ought to be for the remedying of something that is unhealthy, dangerous, the result of an accident (to restore as much as possible), and for those who want it, non-distorting enhancement that doesn't wipe away the individual's intrinsic appearance and replace it with a caricature. (I wouldn't want plastic surgery on my own face. I like my face; I'm aware of its flaws but it's MY FACE. Sometimes it looks beautiful, and sometimes it's tired. I know what sorts of cosmetics I can use and which sorts just don't look right. I wouldn't want plastic surgery on my body. To enhance it, surgery is not the answer. Every surgery is a risk; I have had to take some risks for medical reasons, but I'll turn into cream cheese before I take surgical risks to look like a Barbie doll.)
We are perfect in our imperfections. Our faces reflect our humour, our life journey, our laughter and our sorrow. Our bodies are most beautiful when they are well regulated and respected through exercise and a good diet (which doesn't mean despising bodies that are less than ideal). Of course women especially (and men increasingly) like to enhance their features and wear clothing that flatters them... but I can say this: when you're exhausted, and you have a long way to walk and you don't know how bad the way will be, the last thing one's thinking about is "Do I wear my amber gown in shot silk with my golden South Sea pearls, with my hair curled and drawn back, and my fabulous nude lipstick and my Better Than Sex mascara, and those high heels that make my feet look sooooo gorgeous?" No. One'd be grabbing the most comfortable clothing, something warm enough if it's cold, and something more lightweight if it's hot... comfortable shoes (and forget any idea of how they make one's ankles look), and if it comes to grabbing the Aerogard and sunscreen, or grabbing a handful of cosmetics, it's going to be the AEROGARD AND SUNSCREEN!
(It's all about focus and context. If our lives are constantly focused on how we look, if we define ourselves by appearance rather than by what's in our heart and our minds, that is a distorted world view, and small wonder if we are self-centred parodies of the person we could be.)
And... if you've got a heart defect and need a triple bypass, or a brain clot and need that removed, or a perforated appendix and you need that removed and the gunk sucked out (trying to keep this less technical), the last thing one'd be saying is, "Oh, no, doctor, please give me a tummy tuck instead/please botox my forehead instead/please make the bits between my legs look like a jelly doughnut encrusted with diamante/please make my eyes look a meercat's and my nose look like a razor blade and my lips like a sea serpent... let's just forget about the cardiac and the clot and the cancer and the scarred tissue on the lungs and make me look like Distorted Wonderwoman."
Social media enhances the social sphere and the potential audience. People drawn to the social media accounts of self-centred "look at me"s are drawn to those accounts precisely because that's the sort of thing for which they're looking... so the audience will be more likely to reflect a self-validating view of those extreme and harmful images.
I'd better stop there before I turn this into an essay on the Mirror of Narcissus in an Online Amphitheatre of Distortion.
(And now I've given myself the idea. I'll end up writing it...)
on 10-04-2022 12:09 PM
4channel wrote: They have eyeballs tattooed, holes bigger than a 20 cent piece cut into their cheeks, coral horns fused to their skulls to look like the devil. This stupidity on this level wasn't around 50 years ago.
This stupidity on this level wasn't possible 50 years ago.
And 100+ years ago we had to make do with:
bustles and whalebone corsets,
dresses coloured with an **bleep**nic based dye.
lead based foundation creams,
thallium acetate depilatory creams,
ammonia and opium facial treatments,
**bleep**nic wafers for skincare treatment.
Oh for the good old days, eh?
on 10-04-2022 01:50 PM
....and tattooing and scarification has also been traditionally done for centuries.
What about the elongated necks, lip plates, bound feet, filed teeth, stretched earlobes, flattened heads of various tribal groups all around the world.
I'm not by any means saying that what plastic surgeons are doing is right, but human beings have practiced many types of body modification for eons. The reasons it is carried out are as varied as the forms it takes. Sometimes it is cultural, sometimes attention seeking, sometimes body dysmorphia, sometimes who knows, maybe boredom.
on 10-04-2022 02:42 PM
So beautifully put, countess.
As others have said, there have been countless body modifications done over the centuries but I think in our western world, it has reached a new level, made possible by technology. I am convinced a lot of it is exactly for the reason countess described:
If they weren't being noticed, a lot of the impetus for having these cosmetic distortions would be gone.
Before online social media took off, there wasn't the theatre for showing off these results.
I am convinced 4channel is also right:
It's down to what kids are exposed to via TV, music, books and in venues.
That doesn't mean every child is going to rush out and copy but the very way humans learn is by example.
If you think of the spate of school massacres in USA, they didn't just spontaneously happen by accident.
It's a look and learn scenario. Got a problem with the world, want to make an impact on your way out?
A school massacre was the accepted method there for a while. And it worked, terrific publicity all around the world.
I think some of the extreme examples we see of cosmetic makeovers are like that. Most people will never go to such lengths. They might have some botox or a boob job, stomach stapling or whatever but they aren't neccesarily after massive social media attention. I think these extremists are though.
10-04-2022 06:32 PM - edited 10-04-2022 06:33 PM
4channel wrote: They have eyeballs tattooed, holes bigger than a 20 cent piece cut into their cheeks, coral horns fused to their skulls to look like the devil. This stupidity on this level wasn't around 50 years ago.
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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
This stupidity on this level wasn't possible 50 years ago.
And 100+ years ago we had to make do with:
bustles and whalebone corsets,
dresses coloured with an **bleep**nic based dye.
lead based foundation creams,
thallium acetate depilatory creams,
ammonia and opium facial treatments,
**bleep**nic wafers for skincare treatment.
Oh for the good old days, eh?
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Well, yes a couple of hundred years ago there was ignorance as you described. Then things appeared to be getting better as time. People were seemingly becoming more educated. Vile practices like slavery and the dirty "White Australia Policy" were to end up in history's dustbin of shame. Gough Whitlam was to make progressive changes, moving in the right direction for humanity. The First Australians were on the way to being recognized and counted. Well, the left still had some cred back then. Yes, the counterculture revolution had made some changes to how things were perceived in the moral sense but at least for a period, in the early 70s, people weren't doing to themselves what they're doing now.
Even though some folk may have swung a certain way other than their intended creation had designed them, at least children were taught that a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl. A human is a human and an animal is an animal. There was none of this carry on with adult entertainers with sexual stage names teaching toddlers about twerking and programming them to think that a family unit can be a same-sex couple, thupple or a combination. Children had just 2 biological parents, now it's three for some . And who knows, that may increase!
Children back then weren't bombarded with music about shooting people, referring to women as canines etc. and promoting wealth from thug, pimp or drug lord lifestyle.
People like the iconic sports superstar Israel Folau become distressed and heartbroken when they see where society is heading. Being a committed Christian and a family man concerned about his children and theirs, he makes a statement based on what the holy book that contains the creator's words say. He gets crucified for just quoting the words in the book that represents the highest of high, the one who created us!
on 11-04-2022 01:37 PM
4channel wrote: People like the iconic sports superstar Israel Folau become distressed and heartbroken when they see where society is heading. Being a committed Christian and a family man concerned about his children and theirs, he makes a statement based on what the holy book that contains the creator's words say.
His holy book, and the assumed words of his assumed creator
He gets crucified for just quoting the words in the book that represents the highest of high, the one who created us!
He didn't get crucified, nor did he suffer any form of execution -unlike all those sentenced to death for refusing to believe in that same book.
on 11-04-2022 01:45 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:4channel wrote: People like the iconic sports superstar Israel Folau become distressed and heartbroken when they see where society is heading. Being a committed Christian and a family man concerned about his children and theirs, he makes a statement based on what the holy book that contains the creator's words say.
His holy book, and the assumed words of his assumed creator
He gets crucified for just quoting the words in the book that represents the highest of high, the one who created us!
He didn't get crucified, nor did he suffer any form of execution -unlike all those sentenced to death for refusing to believe in that same book.
.....and he cherry picked words in 'the book' to represent his ideals, ignoring the bits that he didn't want to acknowledge (tattoos just to name one)
on 11-04-2022 02:12 PM
@ambercat16 wrote:.....and he cherry picked words in 'the book' to represent his ideals, ignoring the bits that he didn't want to acknowledge (tattoos just to name one)
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The tattoo part, I remember reading. He probably got it / them before he gave himself to God. Interesting too, Mr. Folau is a non-trinitarian!
on 11-04-2022 02:56 PM
Yep - all good.
on 11-04-2022 04:21 PM
4 channel wrote: Even though some folk may have swung a certain way other than their intended creation had designed them, at least children were taught that a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl. A human is a human and an animal is an animal.
So in your opinion:
1)What is the 'intended design' for intersex individuals - those born with with both male and female genitalia?
2) Should children be allowed to learn that: "A school of clownfish is always built into a hierarchy with a female fish at the top. When she dies, the most dominant male changes sex and takes her place."
3) Is it OK for pantomimes to have a 'Principal Boy' played by a girl and a 'Dame' played by a man in drag?
4) Is it OK for children to watch anthropomorphic animal cartoons e.g. Bluey?
5) How much identity confusion will it cause if children watch Bananas In Pyjamas?
6) Should they be allowed to believe in Santa, The Tooth Fairy or The Easter Bunny?