Keep your Gonski promise Mr Abbott

[donnashuggy]

If you give a gonski apparently there is a petition on the gonski site.

You can see what your school stands to gain on the site:

http://igiveagonski.com.au/whats-gonski/your-school/

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@my*mum wrote:

something that I don't know and am hoping for an unbiased answer..

If three states had legally binding agreements, and the funding was legislated for, how did the current Government get around that?

Does anyone know the name of this alleged legislation and when it was repealed? (assuming of course it ever received assent)

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It's the Australian Education Act 2013

the other questions I can't answer

Gonski: Christopher Pyne should know that Australia isn't England

The education minister is committed to a brand of Thatcherite liberalism combining free market economics and conservative morality. Sabotaging Gonski guarantees his tenure's failure

....The new funding system takes into account disability, socioeconomic disadvantage, indigeneity, English as a second language and remoteness of the school. Where multiple disadvantage is concentrated, which is mostly in public schools, the funding multiplies in a corresponding way. This is the sliding scale that Pyne wants to stop.

Like all aggregate statistical measures, ICSEA is not perfect, but it is a more accurate reflector of real educational opportunity than the measure Pyne wants to return to. Under that system, as Justine Ferrari reported this week, the schools that gained the most public dollars in the last decade were the wealthiest independent schools serving the most affluent families.

The funding agreements that the Coalition now wants to shred are formal, six year agreements linked to the Australian Education Act, which passed the Senate on the day Gillard lost the Labor leadership. That act enshrines educational excellence and equity as a public goal of education, and links year by year increases in school funding to a shared commitment to improving student outcomes.

While the Australian Education Act does create some stronger powers for the federal education minister, and some clearer accountabilities for school systems, these can only be exercised in relation to joint agreements through which governments and non-government education authorities spell out their commitment of resources and the reforms they will take to improve student outcomes. These are the six year funding agreements that some experts are trying to argue are not "binding".

So why would a new government take such a risk in ditching Gonski so early in its term? There are two reasons.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/30/gonski-christopher-pyne-should-know-that-austra...

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Gonski school funding reforms pass Senate, Julia Gillard urges states and territories to sign up

Updated Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:59pm AEST

The Federal Government's legislation to implement the Gonski Schools plan has passed the Senate.

However, the passage of the legislation was overshadowed by renewed tensions within the Labor party.

The Government cut off debate on dozens of bills in the Upper House in order to get the Gonski package through the Parliament this week.

The plan will inject $14.5 billion into primary and high school education over the next six years, with part of the funding to come from the $2.5 billion taken out of the university sector over the next four years.

So far New South Wales, the ACT and South Australia are the only jurisdictions to have signed up to the plan.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-26/gonski-schools-plan-pass-the-senate/4782554

[nevynreally]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

When did schools become a federal issue? They are under the warm blanket of the respective States. Guess it's good fodder for some not to acknowledge that.

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 a review of the education system and a definitive lack of talent in managing the money and the ed system at a state level ,  decades of mismanagement made it an issue.

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Oh please! Don't be so naive to think that the entire Gonski thing wasn't a political ploy.

Education has always been a State issue. Federal government getting involved is grandstanding.

[nevynreally]

Haven't most State's been Labour rule until fairly recently?

[lakeland27]

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@nevynreally wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

When did schools become a federal issue? They are under the warm blanket of the respective States. Guess it's good fodder for some not to acknowledge that.

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 a review of the education system and a definitive lack of talent in managing the money and the ed system at a state level ,  decades of mismanagement made it an issue.

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Oh please! Don't be so naive to think that the entire Gonski thing wasn't a political ploy.

Education has always been a State issue. Federal government getting involved is grandstanding.

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   says you and bolt. i have more regard for your opinion usually, but not on this occasion. make a point if you have one.

[lakeland27]

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@nevynreally wrote:

Haven't most State's been Labour rule until fairly recently?

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 and ?

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The Coalition used the education of Australia's children as a political ploy by telling australian voters that they were on a unity ticket on this .

 on the 17th Nov 

Christopher Pyne said both funding and model would be honoured.

Education is a big thing to a lot of Australian voters .

Deliberately,knowingly misleading the voting public for Political gain should be a crime.

[nevynreally]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

When did schools become a federal issue? They are under the warm blanket of the respective States. Guess it's good fodder for some not to acknowledge that.

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 a review of the education system and a definitive lack of talent in managing the money and the ed system at a state level ,  decades of mismanagement made it an issue.

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Oh please! Don't be so naive to think that the entire Gonski thing wasn't a political ploy.

Education has always been a State issue. Federal government getting involved is grandstanding.

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   says you and bolt. i have more regard for your opinion usually, but not on this occasion. make a point if you have one.

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No you don't, or you would have said so in the past. I made my point. Education is in the hands of the Statesl, and most of them have been held by Labour for a good  while now.

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Nev:Education is in the hands of the States

It hasn't been since earlier this year when The Australian Education Act 2013 was passed .....the former system was failing 

[nevynreally]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Nev:Education is in the hands of the States

It hasn't been since earlier this year when The Australian Education Act 2013 was passed .....the former system was failing 

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And who decided that? Who was it who screwed with the system? Because, you know, been around a while, it wasn't broke.