Let's reverse the debate shall we?

[poddster]

Do you think that illegal entry into Australia should not be allowed?

How would you address that situation?

[poddster]

Where there is something desirable on offer there is always a queue, soma wait patiently to progress in it and there is always some who try to push in.

[cherry*135]

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@freshwaterbeach wrote:

I didn't suggest that am*3.   I was responding to a post by Poddy.

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Sorry, freshwater. Your post wasn't there when I hit reply and I too was responding to poddster.

[cherry*135]

There obviously is a queue, our former PM, Julia Gillard, would not have lied about that.

How can there be one worldwide 'queue'', when a lot of people in quite a few countries don't have any access to join a queue. There is no queue for them to join or jump.

The UN resettlement system does not work like a queue. The term “queue” implies that resettlement is an orderly process and, if you join the end, you are guaranteed to reach the front within a certain amount of time.

In reality, the UN resettlement system works more like a lottery than a queue. Many refugees lack access to UNHCR’s resettlement processes altogether and therefore simply do not have resettlement available to them as an option.

Furthermore, refugees are prioritised for resettlement according to need, not according to how long they have been waiting.

These needs fluctuate and are continuously reassessed. For example, conditions in a refugee-producing country may improve, allowing refugees from that country to return home if they wish; or conditions in a refugee-hosting country may deteriorate, placing the refugees in that country in greater need of resettlement. A person who has been waiting for resettlement for one year may be prioritised ahead of a person who has been waiting for 10 years, if the former’s need for resettlement is assessed as being greater.

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/f/myth-long.php#queue

[spotweldersfriend]

Ten quid pommies didn't have to worry about being persecuted poddster.They didn't have to worry about their wives and kids getting blown to bits by suicide bombers.They didn't require 'handouts' because there were jobs aplenty.Those were completely different times.If you have to label people as economic refugees,try the Italians back then.Their economy was in ruins.

[cherry*135]

Those people were invited here to build up the population and workforce, no comparison with today's refugee's and asylum seekers.

Are there people out there that wish Australia still had its White Australia policy?

[spotweldersfriend]

You bet there are am*3. Go to any front bar in any pub in Australia and you'll find them

[cherry*135]

In 1975 the first of what would become known as ‘boat people’ arrived in Darwin. More than 25 000 arrived in the next thirty years, initially from East Timor and then from Vietnam, China and, most recently, the Middle East.

[freshwater-2]

am*3.  Please don't downplay what the post WW11 immigrants went through in their countries during the six years of the war.

It was the survivors who emigrated to Australia.,,,,survivors who brought their horrendous stories with them along with a cardboard suitcase of  their only possessions.

[freshwater-2]

Are there people out there that wish Australia still had its White Australia policy?

There sure are am*3......unfortunately.

I do not recognise the colour of skin as an issue.

[cherry*135]

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@freshwaterbeach wrote:

am*3.  Please don't downplay what the post WW11 immigrants went through in their countries during the six years of the war.

It was the survivors who emigrated to Australia.,,,,survivors who brought their horrendous stories with them along with a cardboard suitcase of  their only possessions.

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Didn't intend to do that either, will quote the post next time. Was referring to spot's post (no. 3666) about 10pound pommies and also the people in my area (and there would be other areas the same) from UK & Sthern Europe who had assisted passage or were encouraged to move to Aust to work in the Steel mills etc as their weren't enough in the workforce here at that time.

Those are the ones not comparable with people fleeing their countries due to war etc.