Let's reverse the debate shall we?

[poddster]

Do you think that illegal entry into Australia should not be allowed?

How would you address that situation?

[freshwater-2]

Okey Dokey, am*3.

[poddster]

You are most likely going to get a response of "but that was then and this is now" as though to say past history.

I am fully aware of the the situation back then but most of posters here are not and so they are making comment on something they know very little about.  The genuine refugee is not a great deal different from those from post WWII but I would venture to say that the invader who try to force their way in, bypassing the proper channels are not genuine refugees/asylum seekers. They have been told by the people doing the smuggling that Australia is a soft touch and it is.

As you say the post WWII families arrived here with their worldly possessions in cardboard box mostly photographs only, if they managed to salvage any.

They didn't have a brass razoo, and on arrival they were offered menial jobs and earned their keep and were thankful, there were no demands on their benefactors. Most worked very hard at tasks the the average Aussie would not touch. We owe the advances in infrastructure to them. Among those people working side by side were doctors, lawyers, judges, professors and people from all walks of life. They brought their knowledge, culture, work ethic and attittude with them.

Through their own efforts most prospered, without being pampered and spoon fed.

I see no evidence of those attributes in the current lot, sad, but true

[j*oono]

I missed this boat but seeking asylum is not illegal entry.

As you say the post WWII families arrived here with their worldly possessions in cardboard box mostly photographs only, if they managed to salvage any.

Who are you talking about Poddster?

[poddster]

the post WWII families who arrived here

Isn't that clear to you?

[j*oono]

You must be talking about child migration.  

They didn't have a brass razoo, and on arrival they were offered menial jobs and earned their keep

Yes, they sure did.

[poddster]

i mean these Joono. And millions like them

[poddster]

[poddster]

Some of those kids would only have memories of living in a camp and being constantly hungry and cold in the harsh winter until the arrived here.

So go ahead Joono an plead your case for the one who are trying to force entry into this country while the others languish in camps for year in year out.

[j*oono]

That 1st photo of yours is of child migrants that did not ask to come to Australia.  

Many of them were treated with abuse and put to hard labour and please don't try to tell me that they preferred their childhood life in Australia.

Isn't that what the apology to forgotten Australians was all about?

[cherry*135]

Yes.

Abused Children Receive Official Apology for Horror Years

Rudd says sorry to forgotten Australians

AAP

November 16, 2009 11:18am

KEVIN Rudd has apologised to forgotten Australians saying the nation is sorry for their physical suffering, emotional starvation and the cold absence of love and tenderness during their forced care.

“Sorry that as children you were taken from your families and placed in institutions where often you were abused,” he said.

Hundreds of people, many of them forgotten Australians, have gathered in parliament’s Great Hall to hear both the Prime Minister and Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull offer an apology.

They welcomed the Prime Minister with rapturous applause and hooting.

The audience included former child migrants separated from their families in Britain.

They and others were placed with foster parents or in orphanages run by the states and churches up until the late 1970s.

Many suffered ill-treatment and some sexual abuse.

Mr Rudd told those gathered that Australia was “Sorry for the physical suffering, emotional starvation and the cold absence of love, of tenderness, of care.”

He said that part of Australia’s history was filled with shame.

“As a nation we must now reflect on those who did not receive proper care.

“We look back with shame that so many of you were left cold, hungry and alone and with nowhere to hide and nobody, absolutely nobody, to whom to turn.

Mr Rudd acknowledged the pain of children shipped to Australia as migrants.

“Robbed of your families, robbed of your homeland, regarded not as innocent children, but regarded instead as a source of child labour.

“To those of you who were told you were orphans, brought here without your parents’ knowledge or consent, we acknowledge the lies you were told, the lies told to your mothers, fathers and the pain these lies have caused for a lifetime.”

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Thousands of British children forced to make the long sea journey to Australia in the belief that their parents had died finally received an official apology today (Mon) for the abuse they suffered in their new country.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has shown the way to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown into apologising to the abused and neglected child migrants by uttering a word the former migrants had waited years to hear:

‘Sorry’.

Mr Rudd went further, to say that he was ‘deeply sorry’ for the pain caused to not only the British migrants but to hundreds of thousands of Australian children who were placed into state care where they were sexually abused, beaten and humiliated.

‘We look back with shame that so many of you were left cold, hungry and alone and with nowhere to hide and nobody, absolutely nobody, to whom to turn,’ said Mr Rudd.

Mr Rudd said the nation was sorry for the physical suffering, emotional starvation and the cold absence of love and tenderness during the forced care suffered by the children who arrived on ships or who were already in Australia.

He said he was ‘sorry that as children you were taken from your families and placed in institutions where often they were abused.’

Hundreds of those children, now in their 50s and beyond gathered in parliament’s Great hall in Canberra to hear the apology, not only from Labour Prime Minister Mr Rudd but from the Liberal (conservative) leader, Malcolm Turnbull.

As youngsters, they were placed with foster parents or put into orphanages in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s, where they suffered ill-treatment and in some cases sexual abuse.

Child Migrants in the 1940s

Half a million Australian children and thousands more from Britain forced to make the long sea journey to Australia in the belief that their parents had died have finally received an official apology for the abuse they suffered in state ‘care’.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has shown the way to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown into apologising to the abused and neglected child migrants and ‘stolen’ Australian children by uttering a word they had waited more than half a century to hear: ’Sorry’

http://richardshears.com/2009/11/16/abused-children-receive-official-apology-for-horror-years/