Living with the Enemy on SBS

[ufo_investigations]

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

What did I learn?

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

[azureline**]

I have never had to refuse a handshake.

Yes, visited other places but Mecca is obviously restricted to Muslims................... even as a Roman Catholic, I didn't get to enter some areas of the Vatican.

[Anonymous]

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@azureline** wrote:

I have never had to refuse a handshake.

Yes, visited other places but Mecca is obviously restricted to Muslims................... even as a Roman Catholic, I didn't get to enter some areas of the Vatican.

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you were allowed to enter the city though -

weren't you?

[mugssy65]

Was that because you didn't want to stand in line and pay the fee or because you wanted to see the popes living quarters? Naturally there are areas you can't visit but the whole city?

[tall_bearded01]

It never ceases to amaze, how people on the one hand can demand others respectus for who we are, but refuse to respond in kind.

Mecca is city holy to Islam, and for better or worse, Muslims appear to believe that should any non-believer enter it, they defile it. Now I don’t have to agree with that belief. I don’t even have to accept the validity of that belief. What I do have to is RESPECT A PERSONS RIGHT TO HOLD THAT BRLEIF, and in doing so conduct myself in such a way as to not cause offence.

[Anonymous]

and what if everyone felt the same way?

if every place in the world that was considered

sacred to someone was off limits unless you could

prove that you were part of that particular belief system?

think about it for a bit before you answer

[azureline**]

Yes, I was but it's within the city in Rome.

Fees? do you mean for the museums and the sistine chapel? they are open to fee paying visitors, no particular Religion.

There are other areas than his sleeping quarters.................

[katydidthat]

A few years ago, I invited some friends round for Christmas dinner ... a husband, his wife, the wife's sister and three lovely children.  I cooked a turkey breast with all the usual  trimmings, can't remember what we had for entrees, and I made a fruit salad with icecream slightly heated in a hollowed out panettone.  

When they arrived we adults all exchanged hugs.  

We had Christmas decorations, including a tree.  We had presents for everyone.  

I drank wine, so did the husband.  

As we sat around the table we discussed sex, religion and politics.  The two older children watched us and listened

We laughed our heads off ... enjoyed the chat, the fun, the spririt of Christmas.  

It was the first time they had ever eaten turkey!!!!

Yes, they were Muslims ... and ... lovely people.  

[ufo_investigations]

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@azureline** wrote:

Yes, I was but it's within the city in Rome.

Fees? do you mean for the museums and the sistine chapel? they are open to fee paying visitors, no particular Religion.

There are other areas than his sleeping quarters.................

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Rome is in Italy. Vatican City is not part of Italy. It is a country in its own right. It is the worlds smallest country.

You don't have to be Roman Catholic to enter Vatican City even Muslims are allowed to visit.

[Anonymous]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

I have never had to refuse a handshake.

Yes, visited other places but Mecca is obviously restricted to Muslims................... even as a Roman Catholic, I didn't get to enter some areas of the Vatican.

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you were allowed to enter the city though -

weren't you?

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i meant to add - you were allowed to enter

the city without having to prove you were

a roman catholic ??

btw what type of ID is needed to enter the

city of mecca? cant find any info.

[azureline**]

The Vatican City State (usually called the Vatican City) is located in the middle of Rome and is an independent country with an area of approximately half a square kilometer.

Only limited sections of the Vatican City are open to the public

so says my guide book, printed by and bought from, the bookshop in Vatcan City.