01-10-2014 12:22 AM - edited 01-10-2014 12:23 AM
I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS. The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.
What did I learn?
- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).
- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).
- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.
- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.
- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.
- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.
- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?
- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.
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on 01-10-2014 02:13 PM
Shaking hands never bothers me, haven't done it often, but didn't give it a 2nd thought when it happened. To me it's a personal thing you either like it or not. I have no fear of germs, so I guess that perhaps makes a difference as well. Don't like the taste of pork, so it being offered it to eat in my house is never an issue, as I never cook it. If I invite someone to my home for a meal I always ask it there is something they prefer not to or cannot eat, my friends do the same with me.I don't drink any alcohol but don't object to other people drinking it at my home. However, I can't stand being around drunks, which none of my friends are, thank goodness.
on 01-10-2014 02:14 PM
I live in the real world, and my world doesn’t work that way.
If someone owns something they have a right to refuse entry. North Korea does it, so do the Chinese, as do the Russian’s and the Americans and yes, we Australians; hell to one extent or another everyone does it,
Mecca belongs to Saudi Arabia. As such the Saudi Arabian Government has every legal right impose any restrictions it deems fit on persons visiting the country, including places they can and cannot go.
But my post has nothing to do with a government right to deny access. Instead it simply proposes a concept alien to some. If you want to be respected for who you are, then the best place to start is to respond in kind.
Of course the flip side is, respect it’s a 2 way street.
on 01-10-2014 02:17 PM
I'm not religious at all, so have no interest whatsoever in visiting "holy" places be they RC, Muslim or anywhere else
on 01-10-2014 02:17 PM
Only limited sections of the Vatican City are open to the public
that is fair enough if it applies to general public.
are there sections of the city where only roman catholics
are allowed? - this would be more relevant to the topic.
on 01-10-2014 02:21 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:Only limited sections of the Vatican City are open to the public
that is fair enough if it applies to general public.
are there sections of the city where only roman catholics
are allowed? - this would be more relevant to the topic.
No. Muslims, Atheists or anyone else can go wherever the Roman Catholics can go within Vatican City. There are no restrictions.
on 01-10-2014 02:26 PM
If someone owns something they have a right to refuse entry. North Korea does it, so do the Chinese, as do the Russian’s
thank you. i think you understand my point
which part of russia are you not permitted
to visit?
on 01-10-2014 02:37 PM
Lest see, all military bases, missile silos, nuclear sub bases, Chernobyl, the Malaysian Airlines shoot down site to name but a few
Now for Australia, certain aboriginal sacred sites, and closer to home, the crabbing grounds around P and EE Pot Wakefield
on 01-10-2014 02:56 PM
My husband is agnostic, always has been but he appreciated the historical significance of the Vatican.
on 01-10-2014 02:58 PM
Lest see, all military bases, missile silos, nuclear sub bases, Chernobyl, the Malaysian Airlines shoot down site to name but a few
i see. i thought maybe there was a place that was
restricted to only those who are members of the eastern
orthodox church but you are referring to places that are
off limits to the general public. i dont think these are the
types of exclusions the OP is referring to.
btw you are allowed to book a chernobyl tour regardless
of your persuasion
on 01-10-2014 03:04 PM
There are restrictions in NSW where you can't take one step into the bush, fines are over $300.