01-10-2014 12:22 AM - edited 01-10-2014 12:23 AM
I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS. The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.
What did I learn?
- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).
- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).
- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.
- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.
- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.
- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.
- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?
- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.
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on 06-10-2014 11:22 AM
ufoinvestigations - you post that you are a Catholic, listen to the Pope then
Message to Muslims of the world from Pope Francis
Here is the transcript of the English version of Pope Francis’ remarks of goodwill:
To Muslims throughout the World
It gives me great pleasure to greet you as you celebrate ‘Id al-Fitr’, so concluding the month of Ramadan, dedicated mainly to fasting, prayer and almsgiving.
It is a tradition by now that, on this occasion, the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue sends you a message of good wishes, together with a proposed theme for common reflection. This year, the first of my Pontificate, I have decided to sign this traditional message myself and to send it to you, dear friends, as an expression of esteem and friendship for all Muslims, especially those who are religious leaders.
As you all know, when the Cardinals elected me as Bishop of Rome and Universal Pastor of the Catholic Church, I chose the name of “Francis”, a very famous saint who loved God and every human being deeply, to the point of being called “universal brother”. He loved, helped and served the needy, the sick and the poor; he also cared greatly for creation.
I am aware that family and social dimensions enjoy a particular prominence for Muslims during this period, and it is worth noting that there are certain parallels in each of these areas with Christian faith and practice.
This year, the theme on which I would like to reflect with you and with all who will read this message is one that concerns both Muslims and Christians: Promoting Mutual Respect through Education.
This year’s theme is intended to underline the importance of education in the way we understand each other, built upon the foundation of mutual respect. “Respect” means an attitude of kindness towards people for whom we have consideration and esteem. “Mutual” means that this is not a one-way process, but something shared by both sides.
What we are called to respect in each person is first of all his life, his physical integrity, his dignity and the rights deriving from that dignity, his reputation, his property, his ethnic and cultural identity, his ideas and his political choices. We are therefore called to think, speak and write respectfully of the other, not only in his presence, but always and everywhere, avoiding unfair criticism or defamation. Families, schools, religious teaching and all forms of media have a role to play in achieving this goal.
Turning to mutual respect in interreligious relations, especially between Christians and Muslims, we are called to respect the religion of the other, its teachings, its symbols, its values. Particular respect is due to religious leaders and to places of worship. How painful are attacks on one or other of these!
It is clear that, when we show respect for the religion of our neighbours or when we offer them our good wishes on the occasion of a religious celebration, we simply seek to share their joy, without making reference to the content of their religious convictions.
Regarding the education of Muslim and Christian youth, we have to bring up our young people to think and speak respectfully of other religions and their followers, and to avoid ridiculing or denigrating their convictions and practices.
We all know that mutual respect is fundamental in any human relationship, especially among people who profess religious belief. In this way, sincere and lasting friendship can grow.
Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/cityofbrass/2013/08/message-to-muslims-of-the-world-from-pope-fr...
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on 06-10-2014 11:24 AM
Devout Roman Catholics follow the 10 Commandments. If you want to go to Heaven and not Hell you need to obey our Lord.
Oh, if Hell exists, I'm going there all right.
Looking forward to it
on 06-10-2014 11:27 AM
UFO if you believe in one God and one Earth, then isn't it a contradiction to then belive in alien life forms that developed outside of God's hands?
on 06-10-2014 11:29 AM
@karliandjacko wrote:
@iapetus_rocks wrote:Since when has it been Aussie custom to shake hands? It's an individual thing. It's a relatively new concept for a male to shake hands with a woman.
I'm not really sure, but I think it is a very old custom, though in Oz, that custom can only be about 240 yrs old. 😉
I offered my hand to a Muslim woman, after I had shaken hands with her husband and her son, and she took my hand. I admit I did it as a display. I refused to accept the implied negation of the female presence in our meeting. I don't know how the people involved thought about it because I didn't ask.
No, it's not an old custom in Australia for women to shake hands. It is only recent generations of women who might shake hands.
Absolutely, and in Europe man would never offer his hand to woman he does not know; it was up to her if she would offer. Between 2 people of the same sex it would be the older or superior person who would initiate handshake.
06-10-2014 11:30 AM - edited 06-10-2014 11:31 AM
@para-slights wrote:UFO if you believe in one God and one Earth, then isn't it a contradiction to then belive in alien life forms that developed outside of God's hands?
And if there are aliens, would they not be in God's image?
So they must look the same as us. How do we know they're aliens?
on 06-10-2014 11:30 AM
on 06-10-2014 11:33 AM
on 06-10-2014 11:34 AM
on 06-10-2014 11:36 AM
@ufo_investigations wrote:
@azureline** wrote:It is the same God.
Catholics don't have their own, personal, God.
The 1st Commandment says we have our own god and we are not to follow other gods.
Is God the inventer of the UFOs and aliens too?
on 06-10-2014 11:37 AM
@para-slights wrote:UFO if you believe in one God and one Earth, then isn't it a contradiction to then belive in alien life forms that developed outside of God's hands?
God is Almighty, he created the heavens and the earth. The entire universe.