Living with the Enemy on SBS

[ufo_investigations]

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

What did I learn?

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

[ufo_investigations]

This website has a list of the companies http://www.halalchoices.com.au

but I don't think it is complete that is why I still check myself when shopping.

I think cadbury is halal.

[the_great_she_elephant]

If an unbeliever invites you to a meal, go if you want to, and eat whatever is put before you; you need not ask questions of conscience first. But if someone says to you, 'This food has been offered in sacrifice,' do not eat it.

Did the "unbelievers" say to the man on that show that the food had been sacrificed?

Does saying a prayer over a steer as it is slaughtered maean it has been sacrificed?

How can you be certain the slaughterman who killed the pig from which your pork chops come wasn't a Hindu who muttered a prayer to one of his Gods  as he killed it?

[i-need-a-martini]

---

@ufo_investigations wrote:

This website has a list of the companies http://www.halalchoices.com.au

but I don't think it is complete that is why I still check myself when shopping.

I think cadbury is halal.

---

So Cadburys do some sort of sacrifical ritual when they slaughter the chocolate before they wrapp it in foil?

[ufo_investigations]

---

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

If an unbeliever invites you to a meal, go if you want to, and eat whatever is put before you; you need not ask questions of conscience first. But if someone says to you, 'This food has been offered in sacrifice,' do not eat it.

Did the "unbelievers" say to the man on that show that the food had been sacrificed?

Does saying a prayer over a steer as it is slaughtered maean it has been sacrificed?

How can you be certain the slaughterman who killed the pig from which your pork chops come wasn't a Hindu who muttered a prayer to one of his Gods  as he killed it?

---

(Q) Did the "unbelievers" say to the man on that show that the food had been sacrificed?

(A) They shopped at an islamic butcher shop which do rituals to allah.

(Q) Does saying a prayer over a steer as it is slaughtered maean it has been sacrificed?

(A) Yes. If the prayer was by a Catholic it is okay.

(Q) How can you be certain the slaughterman who killed the pig from which your pork chops come wasn't a Hindu who muttered a prayer to one of his Gods  as he killed it?

(A) No I can't be sure unless it is stated.

[ufo_investigations]

---

@i-need-a-martini wrote:

---

@ufo_investigations wrote:

This website has a list of the companies http://www.halalchoices.com.au

but I don't think it is complete that is why I still check myself when shopping.

I think cadbury is halal.

---

So Cadburys do some sort of sacrifical ritual when they slaughter the chocolate before they wrapp it in foil?

---

The chocolate is sacrificed as an offering to a false deity (God). So yes that is correct. According to the halal symbol on the packet that would make it halal.

[i-need-a-martini]

How is the chocolate sacrificed?

[azureline**]

You are having a lend of us aren't you?

[ufo_investigations]

---

@i-need-a-martini wrote:

How is the chocolate sacrificed?

---

If you read back a few posts you will find out.

[i-need-a-martini]

---

@ufo_investigations wrote:

---

@i-need-a-martini wrote:

How is the chocolate sacrificed?

---

If you read back a few posts you will find out.

---

No explaination in the post you are referring to that applies as far as I can see.

Oxford Dictionary on SACRIFICE: An act of slaughtering an animal or person or surrendering a possession as an offering to a deity:

So I shall ask again. What part of the chocolate animal (cause everyone knows that this is where chocolate comes from) is slaughtered and offered up to Allah in order for it to be halal and therefore is offlimits to Catholics?

[ufo_investigations]

---

@azureline** wrote:

You are having a lend of us aren't you?

---

No. It's all true.