Living with the Enemy on SBS

[ufo_investigations]

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

What did I learn?

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

[ufo_investigations · Accepted solution]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

Why are you worried about this anyway? I don't buy halal chocolate but the muslims will so what is the problem?

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I'm not worried about it. I'll eat anything. You seem to be very worried about it though.

But your whole argument is that halal = food that is sacrificed to another (non Catholic) God and therfore is a sin to eat.

But if the definition of sacrifice is that an animal is slaughtered as an offering, then how can chocolate (which is not an animal) be slaughtered in order for it to halal?

How can choclate be a sin to eat if it is labelled halal? .

My concern is that you are creating an argument when you don't seem to have a clear understanding of the meanings that you are basing your argument on.

I don't care if you eat chocolate or not. The same would apply to any halal product.

For example, an apple is halal. Do you eat apples?

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I will explain it ONE final time and that's it. If you don't understand refer back to previous posts I will not explain this again.

Here we go:

Meaning of Sacrifice (OXFORD DICTIONARY)

(NOUN)
An act of slaughtering an animal or person or surrendering a possession as an offering to a deity: they offer sacrifices to the spirits [mass noun]: the ancient laws of animal sacrifice

The meaning of sacrifice above has 3 conditions.

(1) An act of slaughtering an animal

OR

(2) Person

OR

(3) SURRENDERING A POSSESSION AS AN OFFERING TO A DEITY.

Number (3) is not a slaughter it is simply surrendering a possession as an offering to a god (Deity means god). If a product is sworn as fit for purpose to a false god then it is off limits.

I hope I have made it clearer for you. Please don't ask me to explain it again as I wont do it. Read earlier posts if you still don't understand this or better yet read the 1st Commandment and 1 Corinthians Chapter 10. I have explained it over a dozen times already at least.

It doesn't matter if it is apples, lemons, chocolate, lasagna, pasta, coffee, tea etc... IF a false god is mentioned on the pack or if the company (supplier) secretly supports false gods I wont buy or eat it. I can't make it any more clear than this. If you don't understand please read over and over again until you understand. LOL.

[purplecarrot-top]

Gee my dad used to chop the chooks heads off and pluck them.

[azureline**]

Lol better give up fruit vegetables and water too

[i-need-a-martini]

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@bushies.girl wrote:
When people end a sentence using the word "right" I end the conversation

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Paticularly when you realise they are in fact "right" I suppose?

By the way, that video of animals being slaughtered are neither halal or kosher. The ways those animals would have been thrown around would make them haram. I also note that no thanks prayer was given.

[bushies.girl]

Why?

[i-need-a-martini]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

halal ? why are we subject to sharia law in Australia? To raise funds from the fees that companies have to pay to the muslim bodies for certification. where does all that money go, I wonder?

all chickens / turkeys / ducks etc are halal ie throat slit and hung upside down to drain blood. Imagine their death next time you eat chicken. 

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What sharia law do we have?

Umm and you might want to check out any old slaughter house when you get a chance - all animals are hung upside down to bleed them out before cutting them up. 

So unless you are 100% vegetarian you will be eating an animal (halal or not) that has been killed in exactly the same way. Imagine that next time you tuck into your KFC...

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@bushies.girl wrote:
Why?

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Sheesh...

Because fruit and vegetables are halal.

[bushies.girl]

Well thanks for explaining that so politely, much appreciated .... If I had know the answer I wouldn't have asked 😞

[azureline**]

Halal means permitted/ allowed

[bushies.girl]

TY Az ....