Living with the Enemy on SBS

[ufo_investigations]

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

What did I learn?

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

Before I go, I'd just like to comment on ufo's posts.

Exodus – Chapter 20 THE FIRST COMMANDMENT
I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.

you mean like a Cross? Statue of Mary? 

[karliandjacko]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

But if the definition of sacrifice is that an animal is slaughtered as an offering, then how can chocolate (which is not an animal) be slaughtered in order for it to halal?

How can choclate be a sin to eat if it is labelled halal? .

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I can only speak for myself but I am guilty of the inhumane slaughter of my freddo frogs and Caramello Koalas. Does that count?

[ufo_investigations]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

HALAL means = "Foods that are permissible for muslims to eat or drink under Islamic Shariʻah"

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Ahh. Incorrect.

The word HALAL directly translates to permissable or allowable. You can add as many extras to suit your argument if you want but it is rare in any language for a single word to mean 13 others in a single sentence. 

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Incorrect. Islam is a totalitarian regime where they control all aspects of life when it is in reference to food or drink this is the meaning. It is important to muslims for food/drink to comply with islamic shariah this is why it would be halal because it must comply.

[karliandjacko]

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

HALAL means = "Foods that are permissible for muslims to eat or drink under Islamic Shariʻah"

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Ahh. Incorrect.

The word HALAL directly translates to permissable or allowable. You can add as many extras to suit your argument if you want but it is rare in any language for a single word to mean 13 others in a single sentence. 

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Incorrect. Islam is a totalitarian regime where they control all aspects of life when it is in reference to food or drink this is the meaning. It is important to muslims for food/drink to comply with islamic shariah this is why it would be halal because it must comply.

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As there are varying degrees of compliance among catholics and jews so are there varying degrees of compliance among muslims.

[ufo_investigations]

It is not too late i-martini LOL repent, confess and go to Church, God will forgive you. 😉

Nite 🙂

[the_great_she_elephant]

In arguing too, the parson own'd his skill,

For e'en though vanquish'd he could argue still;

While words of learned length and thund'ring sound

Amazed the gazing rustics rang'd around;

And still they gaz'd and still the wonder grew,

That one small head could carry all he knew. 

(Oliver Goldsmith: the Village Schoolmaster.)

[i-need-a-martini]

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

HALAL means = "Foods that are permissible for muslims to eat or drink under Islamic Shariʻah"

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Ahh. Incorrect.

The word HALAL directly translates to permissable or allowable. You can add as many extras to suit your argument if you want but it is rare in any language for a single word to mean 13 others in a single sentence. 

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Incorrect. Islam is a totalitarian regime where they control all aspects of life when it is in reference to food or drink this is the meaning. It is important to muslims for food/drink to comply with islamic shariah this is why it would be halal because it must comply.

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Firstly, Islam  is no more regime than Cathlicism is. Both are religions. Both have rules. Both have moral codes.

Secondly, the word Halal means permissable. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Thirdly, the word Sharia means a moral code. A bit like bible paths or those Commandments you are so fond of sprouting.

It;'s a bit like the Bible telling us that we should fast or that it is 'haram' to eat meat on Good Friday.

And in the same way that a Catholic can go to confession and absolve themselves of the sin of eating meat on Good Friday, Muslims can absolve themselves of the sin of eating haram food with 40 days of prayer. 

Isn't it nice that our religions share so much...?

[the_great_she_elephant]

I suspect you are wating your time, martini.

[azureline**]

Muslims are taught through the Qu'ran that all animals should be treated with respect and well cared for. The goal is to slaughter the animal, limiting the amount of pain the animal will endure.

When an animal is slaughtered, the jugular vein is cut and the blood is allowed to drain from the animal. Remember, Muslims are prohibited from consuming animal blood.

[azureline**]

Haram

Muslims are enjoined by their religion to abstain from eating certain foods. This is in the interest of health and cleanliness, and in obedience to God. In the Qur'an (2:173, 5:3, 5:90-91, 6:145, 16:115), the following foods and drinks are strictly prohibited by God (

haram 😞

• dead meat (i.e. carcass of an already-dead animal)
• blood
• flesh of swine (pork)
• intoxicating drinks
• meat of an animal that has been sacrificed to idols
• meat of an animal that died from strangulation or blunt force
• meat from which wild animals have already eaten