Living with the Enemy on SBS

[ufo_investigations]

I just watched LIVING WITH THE ENEMY on SBS.  The story about Ben the Aussie going to live with Lidia and Ahmed the muslims. Lidia is an Aussie and was raised Catholic and converted to Islam. Ahmed was born in Saudi Arabia.

What did I learn?

- Muslim women wont shake hands with a male person their not related to. (Very rude).

- When husband and wife muslims pray in their own house, the wife has to pray behind her husband. (Women are not treated as equals even in their own house).

- Christians are not allowed to visit Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Why? Because you have to be muslim to be allowed.

- Mosques can be built all over Australia but we can't build a Church in Saudi Arabia.

- The Quran tells muslims to kill people.

- In the mosque women are behind the curtain at the back. It's their own area. Why? Because the men have to be in a different section. Why? To give women privacy. This is the reason they cited. The real reason I believe is not to cause desire in the men.

- When they went shopping they visited a halal butcher to buy lamb shoulder. Ben wasn't consulted. What if he wanted pork chops?

- They went to Bondi to do an "Aussie thing called surfing". Lidia went swimming in her full Islamic clothing then when she came out of the water she placed a towel around her depicting the Australian flag.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

she-ele wrote:"Because just as all Christians and Jews don't follow every single thing written in the Bible".

Jews certainly don't, they only believe in the 'Old Testament'.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I think to call God "It" would be a trifle disrespectful.

Why?

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I don't think that it's just me, but somehow, He, Him and Father seem more respectful.

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Cause God can only be a man lol?

And yet there are those on here that are trying to tell us that Islam subjucates women...

[iapetus_rocks]

Why should we offer respect to any god or to any religion which, in its' scriptures, teaches that women are the inferiors of men, and which then goes on to make certain rules about them which demonstrate this fact?

These religions marginalise 50% of the human race and declare them as inferior. respect? Not from me.

None of them are in the the least deserving of my respect,

[i-need-a-martini]

See post above yours lol.

[iapetus_rocks]

Martini . . . I think you may be talking about the Old Testament, which is essentially a Judaic text, and not about the Christian new Testament.

It's easy to get confused if a person doesn't appreciate what they are talking about.

[iapetus_rocks]

Cause God can only be a man lol?

Don't ask me, ask those who believe in all that misogynist claptrap.

[azureline**]

Condescending much? Lol

[i-need-a-martini]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Why should we offer respect to any god or to any religion which, in its' scriptures, teaches that women are the inferiors of men, and which then goes on to make certain rules about them which demonstrate this fact?

These religions marginalise 50% of the human race and declare them as inferior. respect? Not from me.

None of them are in the the least deserving of my respect,

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Yeah only the Koran treates women as inferiors. Oh wait...what's this?? Passages from the Koran? Nope! Passages from the Bible. UmmAhhh - naughty Christians treating their women like dirt. Let's condemn them because these must be the views of ALL of them!!

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man."

and this:

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

and then there is more:

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything."

Surely not more? Oh yes indeedy:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

I could go on (and on and on and on) but I think you get the picture...

[iapetus_rocks]

While you are considering going "on and on" then you might like to look up the definition of "any".

[i-need-a-martini]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Martini . . . I think you may be talking about the Old Testament, which is essentially a Judaic text, and not about the Christian new Testament.

It's easy to get confused if a person doesn't appreciate what they are talking about.

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New testament. Old testament. It matters not. Both are still available. The Old is still considered the book of Gods written revelations. It is simply part One of Two. I always find it fascinating that people make excuses by saying that the Old Testament is not relevent as if it no longer exists...