on 21-04-2014 11:16 AM
on 23-04-2014 06:55 PM
lol richo beat me to it
on 23-04-2014 06:59 PM
Yep Joe-an oldie -but a goodie--fitted in....................Richo.
on 23-04-2014 07:01 PM
@spotweldersfriend wrote:
One theory is that meat is responsible for the development of our brain.I still can't work out why wolves are such lousy chess players.
haha spot
yes meat is directly responsible for the evolution of the mind and tehcnology
gave us more play time...tool making, art too etc instead of spending all day consuming fruit and veg for our required protien intake
on 23-04-2014 07:05 PM
@joz*garage wrote:
@lakeland27 wrote:do Koala's have incisors ?
yes their dentures evolved to eat roots and leaves
on top of all that they bite them as well ?
on 23-04-2014 07:08 PM
@joz*garage wrote:Because, as a human, I have a carnivores mouth and digestive tract.... not a herbivores.
There are major differences between the two.......humans are designed to eat meat.....so I do....
humans werent originally meat-eaters
our dentures are a quick indication of that, we evolved to eat plants fruit roots vegetation etc
if that was scarce we would adapt and eat a bit of meat to survive,
you would need to read scientific evidence going back say 3 million years to understand this
have you known a tiger (carnivore) use a tooth pick?
Is your mouth like a herbivores?........lol......consider sheep, cows and deers........
on 23-04-2014 07:17 PM
@joz*garage wrote:
@spotweldersfriend wrote:
One theory is that meat is responsible for the development of our brain.I still can't work out why wolves are such lousy chess players.haha spot
yes meat is directly responsible for the evolution of the mind and tehcnology
gave us more play time...tool making, art too etc instead of spending all day consuming fruit and veg for our required protien intake
Yeah, I read that somewhere. But more so it takes more time and energy to search for fruits and veges.
23-04-2014 09:40 PM - edited 23-04-2014 09:43 PM
thats worded better mathew
had something to do with environmental change too.. a decrease in forests so we adapted
on 23-04-2014 10:03 PM
@joz*garage wrote:thats worded better mathew
had something to do with environmental change too.. a decrease in forests so we adapted
i totally agree with below....it's Engels Dialectics of Nature
And what are the most ancient tools that we find - the most ancient judging by the heirlooms of prehistoric man that have been discovered, and by the mode of life of the earliest historical peoples and of the most primitive of contemporary savages? They are hunting and fishing implements, the former at the same time serving as weapons. But hunting and fishing presuppose the transition from an exclusively vegetable diet to the concomitant use of meat, and this is an important step in the transition to man.
A meat diet contains in an almost ready state the most essential ingredients required by the organism for its metabolism. It shortened the time required, not only for digestion, but also for the other vegetative bodily processes corresponding to those of plant life, and thus gained further time, material, and energy for the active manifestation of animal life in the proper sense of the word. And the further that man in the making became removed from the plant kingdom, the higher he rose also over animals.
Just as becoming accustomed to a plant diet side by side with meat has converted wild cats and dogs into the servants of man, so also adaptation to a flesh diet, side by side with a vegetable diet, has considerably contributed to giving bodily strength and independence to man in the making. The most essential effect, however, of a flesh diet was on the brain, which now received a far richer flow of the materials necessary for its nourishment and development, and which therefore could become more rapidly and perfectly developed from generation to generation.
Just as man learned to consume everything edible, he learned also to live in any climate. He spread over the whole of the habitable world, being the only animal that by its very nature had the power to do so. The other animals that have become accustomed to all climates - domestic animals and vermin- did not become so independently, but only in the wake of man. And the transition from the uniformly hot climate of the original home of man to colder regions, where the year is divided into summer and winter, created new requirements: shelter and clothing as protection against cold and damp, new spheres for labour and hence new forms of activity, which further and further separated man from the animal.
on 23-04-2014 11:32 PM
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
Because, as a human, I have a carnivores mouth and digestive tract.... not a herbivores.
There are major differences between the two.......humans are designed to eat meat.....so I do....
humans, in fact, are not designed to eat meat:
Are human beings anatomically more similar to natural carnivores or to natural herbivores? Let’s find out….
- Intestinal tract length. Carnivorous animals have intestinal tracts that are 3-6x their body length, while herbivores have intestinal tracts 10-12x their body length. Human beings have the same intestinal tract ratio as herbivores.
- Stomach acidity. Carnivores’ stomachs are 20x more acidic than the stomachs of herbivores. Human stomach acidity matches that of herbivores.
- Saliva. The saliva of carnivores is acidic. The saliva of herbivores is alkaline, which helps pre-digest plant foods. Human saliva is alkaline.
- Shape of intestines. Carnivore bowels are smooth, shaped like a pipe, so meat passes through quickly — they don’t have bumps or pockets. Herbivore bowels are bumpy and pouch-like with lots of pockets, like a windy mountain road, so plant foods pass through slowly for optimal nutrient absorption. Human bowels have the same characteristics as those of herbivores.
- Fiber. Carnivores don’t require fiber to help move food through their short and smooth digestive tracts. Herbivores require dietary fiber to move food through their long and bumpy digestive tracts, to prevent the bowels from becoming clogged with rotting food. Humans have the same requirement as herbivores.
- Cholesterol. Cholesterol is not a problem for a carnivore’s digestive system. A carnivore such as a cat can handle a high-cholesterol diet without negative health consequences. A human cannot. Humans have zero dietary need for cholesterol because our bodies manufacture all we need. Cholesterol is only found in animal foods, never in plant foods. A plant-based diet is by definition cholesterol-free.
- Claws and teeth. Carnivores have claws, sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, and no flat molars for chewing. Herbivores have no claws or sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, but they have flat molars for chewing. Humans have the same characteristics as herbivores.
But aren’t humans anatomically suited to be omnivores?
Nope. We don’t anatomically match up with omnivorous animals anymore than we do with carnivorous ones. Omnivores are more similar to carnivores than they are to herbivores. For a more detailed summary table that compares the properties of carnivores, herbivores, and omnivores side by side, see this page:
Comparative Anatomy & Taxonomy
The link above also debunks the opportunistic feeder theory, which states that because humans can eat like omnivores, that we must therefore be omnivores. And this is of course false because mere behavior doesn’t indicate suitability. There are plenty of things we can do as a species that would threaten our survival if we all considered them suitable default behavior, such as shooting each other, lobbing hand grenades, or sending spam.
.......lol......
Animals that are herbivorous cannot chew or digest meat
Humans are not herbivorous animals. Their digestive systems are closer to herbivores, though, than to carnivores
.......humans have been eating meat for over a million years.......
I don't think so. Homo Sapiens (modern humans) have only been on the planet for around 250,000 years.
You're right though, humans have been eating meat pretty much since they've been on the planet. That's not to say they were designed to be meat eaters.
See reasons above.
on 24-04-2014 06:05 AM
As humans are Omnivores.......we actually have more in common with carnivores than herbivores...........
Early humans were eating meat over a million years ago and possibly as far back as 2.6 million years go.