on 07-10-2013 07:01 PM
09-10-2013 06:14 PM - edited 09-10-2013 06:15 PM
@nevillesdaughter wrote:
But, as per my previous analogy - if you're caught leaving someone else's house via the window, clutching all their valuables, you are still marched off to the pokey to do some paperwork...
Cheers,
Marina.
I am not insane, and I have the psychiatric reports to prove it....
I can understand how some oversight & mistakes occur. What politicians and other extremely busy people who can claim expenses do is they save all their receipts, automatically. In the end of the month (or how often they hand their claims in) they pull it all up and try to sort it out. I have lived with man like that. LOL - forever asking: "Do you remember what we did/where we were X date last month? Why do I have here this bill for $X?"
So it is very easy to claim for 1 night in Canberra when that day, several weeks ago, he was elsewhere. He probably had his air ticket to Canberra, and drove down to snow.
However claiming for trips to flog his book (as TA did) is very unlikely to be a mistake. And if it was just one off, OK I would give him the benefit of doubt. However TA has claimed more than just about anybody before, his claims (if you take away JG's o/s travel, which was part of her duty as PM) were much more than JG as PM. Even if legitimate, it certainly is extravagant.
07-10-2013 07:08 PM - edited 07-10-2013 07:10 PM
Why would they pay it back if no-one noticed?
Why can't the staff approving these claims look a little more deeper into some of them before paying them out? How many, if any, get rejected for not being claims for official purposes?
on 07-10-2013 07:40 PM
Same with kids - "I'm sorry" usually means "I'm sorry I got caught".
As regards the expenditure approval process for things like travel etc, it doesn't work that way for the likes of politicans and the very senior (is enforced for the minions much lower down on the ladder though), and nor could it without a massive increase in staff, and then you would have people screaming about the cost of huge bureaucracies.
In a previous life I was a (very minor) bureaucrat, and was often a sounding board for people's whinges about "pen-pushing" public servants. I spent way too much time pointing out that it is because people demand (and have a right to) to know the who, what, why, when, where etc of public expenditure, that all the pen-pushing, form filling-out etc is necessary. In the good old days, you just gave the contract/ !st class plane ticket/government vehicle or whatever, to your cousin, and business got done.
Unfortunately, we need to rely on alert, brave whistle-blowers (or rabid researchers and fact-checkers - usually from the other side) to bring these things to light. Then, at least we have the paper/money trails laid down by bureaucracy to follow!
My main beef with it all is that if a housebreaker gets caught, and offers to give back the ill-gotten gains, he/she doesn't just get to walk away.
Cheers,
Marina.
on 07-10-2013 07:50 PM
and here we have been told only the labour party was subject go questionable practices
TOny abbot is a hypocrite.....i hope all you lnp supporters have atleast the integrity to cringe at the hypocrissy...and object to it....
no better than a theif to steal and missappropriate government and taxpayers funds
07-10-2013 08:05 PM - edited 07-10-2013 08:06 PM
The Prime Minister Tony Abbott has had to make another repayment of his parliamentary travel entitlements, with revelations he used taxpayer funds to attend the wedding of former colleague and parliamentary speaker Peter Slipper.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-07/pm-pays-back-more-travel-entitlements/5003576?section=business
OMG KARMA! Or should that be OMG THE IRONY? rofpmsl
on 07-10-2013 08:09 PM
on 07-10-2013 08:09 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:The Prime Minister Tony Abbott has had to make another repayment of his parliamentary travel entitlements, with revelations he used taxpayer funds to attend the wedding of former colleague and parliamentary speaker Peter Slipper.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-07/pm-pays-back-more-travel-entitlements/5003576?section=business
OMG KARMA! Or should that be OMG THE IRONY? rofpmsl
to be 'best man' too.
on 07-10-2013 08:13 PM
we have been told
lol
on 07-10-2013 08:16 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:The Prime Minister Tony Abbott has had to make another repayment of his parliamentary travel entitlements, with revelations he used taxpayer funds to attend the wedding of former colleague and parliamentary speaker Peter Slipper.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-07/pm-pays-back-more-travel-entitlements/5003576?section=business
OMG KARMA! Or should that be OMG THE IRONY? rofpmsl
to be 'best man' too.
It could almost be an episode of "Yes, Prime Minister."
on 07-10-2013 08:16 PM
election now ! the vile mendacity of the libbies has disgraced this once proud nation. time for the grown ups to regain control.