on 19-11-2018 04:03 PM
Solved! Go to Solution.
on 26-11-2018 06:45 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@marwi_3023 wrote:
I have very little to do with the police besides roadside breath testing and I have never failed that and I haven't been fined since 1991 and that is because I try my best to to not do anything wrongYet you choose to call the police "pigs". Why? What have they ever done to you to warrant that?
If only everybody could live a law-abiding life like you and I and most of us, there'd be no reason to call them that, would there?
i often call people who turn subsidised rental properties into places i wouldnt let my dog sleep in pigs too.
its a very common term to give to anyone who acts like a pig. that includes police who take the law and rewrite it often hurting innocent people. or even hurt people who they are detaining or arresting, its not a cops job to dish out punishment, only to find out if they think a court will think they need punishment.
if we cant call bad cops 'pigs' can we call them 'inmates'? no i guess not as its pretty rare they get punished for acting like 'pigs'
on 19-11-2018 04:18 PM
The answer is yes, they do indeed vet police recruits & it isn't an easy process.
I am surprised by the facebook reports. For starters, police are rather like teachers in that they are advised not to be on facebook or if they absolutely must, not to use their real name under any circumstances and to have it on the highest privacy settings.
I can only think that for Jenny Leong to have seen the posts, one of the man's 'friends' in the force must have taken exception to the comments & messaged a copy to her.
Whoever made the comments, even if the comments were meant as sarcasm or put downs over her stance about the sniffer dog program, they were very foolish. It is one thing to have a go at her in private (even if still inappropriate to bring her race into it) but another to write that sort of thing on social media. My bet is it is someone young. They say the young are 'better' with technology but I have my doubts at times, the young ones don't seem to believe that nothing you write online is necessarily going to stay private.
on 21-11-2018 04:06 AM
on 21-11-2018 07:22 AM
I'm not saying some police officers don't overstep the mark but when you think of how often during their day they are dealing with druggies and random violence, realistically it is sometimes going to happen. And in every profession, you get some who are more competent than others.
Looking at the link you put up, I don't totally believe the first woman. She was driving an unregistered car so she should not have been on the road and that's a big part of why she failed to stop. I'd say after the first minute or so, she was very well aware the police siren & lights were for her.
The police officer was also getting the info that she was unlicensed, which was not true, but that is the info he had.
Now, he should not have pulled a gun straight off but he did have every right to question & fine her & in fact i think the magistrate should have fined her for driving an unregistered car, no matter what was decided about the police officer.
As for the dog being sprayed, we're talking a big dog & the footage shows it lunged at the officer, so i think the reason behind that action is logical, although the dog only lunged as it saw its owner in trouble, I realise that.
The second case, although it is hard to say for sure why the police officers didn't listen to her side of the story when both she & her ex alleged assault, my guess is she is known to police, has a record & has given trouble in the past. They should have recorded her side of the story too though of course.
The phone call she got was unprofessional, for sure.
on 21-11-2018 09:20 AM
on 21-11-2018 11:51 AM
I saw that program too. The old woman was travelling very slowly and she did in one stage pull over, the cop did not drive to back of her car but stayed long distance away, so she drove on. And pulled into her house. The dog was playing it did not show any aggression, and she kept saying Please, let me put him inside". But fair enough, if the officer felt threatened, however the point was he sprayed the dog such a way that the old handcuffed woman on the ground was also sprayed. We do not know what was the story about the car not being registered, there could have been some confusion about it, and therefore she was let off.
Footage like that terrifies me; old and disabled people should not be treated roughly. Personally, I would not be able to comply with the cop's requests, I am not physically able to. To start with I could not just get out of the car, I need to brace myself on little gadget in the lock. Then I am not physically able to put my arms behind my back or to get down on the ground. If forced I would experience such pain that I would likely black out. If i was treated these 2 women were I would likely end up with further physical injury. I also know people, some quite young, who suffer from osteoporosis and they would suffered multiple fractures if they were handled as these 2 women were. Cops should not behave this way towards public, there is no excuse.
on 21-11-2018 12:44 PM
yet another example of why police investigating police is never going to work.
there has to be an idependant body set up for investigating crimes committed by police.
a body with sweeping powers and the powers to apply penalties and/or send individuals to court.
on 21-11-2018 04:27 PM
@marwi_3023 wrote:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-20/police-officer-draws-gun-on-pensioner-and-pepper-sprays-her-d...
like wow, how can a man act so cowardly, the dog was as friendly as canbe until he decided to put his hands on the dog in an agressive manner.
to then attack the dog with pepper spray and give commands to a dog (did he really believe a dog would understand his commands?) like he was talking to a human.
then the 'lucky i dont shoot him!' for what, being a nosy but friendly pet?
all this over a fail to stop? the woman wasnt fighting or swearing or anything.
this officer was so 'over the top' its not funny.
on 24-11-2018 11:37 AM
Fremantle couple tasered by WA Police win fight for more than $1.1 million in damages
10 years to get some justice, the 'authorities' throw everything at the innocent to cover up any wrong doing in hope they just give up.
on 26-11-2018 09:25 AM
@marwi_3023 wrote:
Do they even vet police recruits now
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-19/jenny-leong-facebook-posts-prompt-legal-action/10510430
Your thread title says a lot about your attitude to the police.