on 21-10-2014 10:52 PM
What is it?
Say I come here and i am asian.
I can speak my language at home to my family, I can cook the food i like at home (or anywhere) I can do my rituals to my gods, no one will care.
So what is that multiculturalism all about?
it seems like empth words to me.
i don't understand.
i come from a different culture, english is my 2nd language.
i cook my countries food at home and hubby puts up with it or i cook him something else if it's too much of an aquired taste.
i speak english (foreign) to other people in the shops because no-one would understand a word if i spoke in my native tongue.
so what exactly is multiculturalism?
is it some ideal where i could talk in my native tongue here and expevt other people to understand me?
is it the freedom to cook my "foreign" meals as i please?
can someone please enlighten me what it actually means?
on 24-10-2014 03:14 PM
@iapetus_rocks wrote:Not replying to anyone, just a comment.
I was walking down a main street in the city with my wife a couple of days ago, and in the distance were two women coming towards us. One had a hat on and the other a hajib. These women were in their mid twenties, I guess.
Anyway, about five metres or so before they passed us, the one in the hat reached up with both hands and pulled the sides of her hat down over the sides of her face, using one hand also to cover her face. The one wearing the hijab just put one hand up to her face to cover it .
How did I feel? I felt insulted that they would cover their faces as though they were fearful that I would look upon them with lustful thoughts.
I really did feel insulted and couldn't help but mutter, "Oh, really!" in exasperation as they passed. Not in a loud voice but quietly.
It affected me that much.
I agree that would have been an unpleasant experience, but if it is the most insulting or degrading thing that has ever happened to you in a public place, then you should thank your lucky stars you weren't born a woman - especiaaly a young and attrctive one.
on 24-10-2014 05:15 PM
@**dirty.girl** wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:Muslim woman are being shouted at in the streets and being physically assaulted by cowardly idiots, is that "lucky"?
Still a step-up from Greek children being given kerosene to drink and/or nearly drowned in rivers in the 1950's. Yes, Muslim woman are very lucky compared to the Greeks back then.
Do you actually have first hand knowledge of this happening or is it hearsay?
on 24-10-2014 05:22 PM
@lyndal1838 wrote:
@**dirty.girl** wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:Muslim woman are being shouted at in the streets and being physically assaulted by cowardly idiots, is that "lucky"?
Still a step-up from Greek children being given kerosene to drink and/or nearly drowned in rivers in the 1950's. Yes, Muslim woman are very lucky compared to the Greeks back then.
Do you actually have first hand knowledge of this happening or is it hearsay?
It doesn't matter, it happened to the Greeks - and alot worse. What gets me is the Greeks never brought crime or drugs to the country, only delicious food and a friendly, family-orientated culture and yet THEY were the nationality the Australians chose to persecute.
on 24-10-2014 05:50 PM
I think it does matter.
I was speaking to my Greek neighbours....two sisters who came here in the 1950s along with their 6 other brothers and sisters. All the children married into other Greek families who also came here in the 50s and 60s and none of them have ever heard of it happening, let alone experienced it.
The same with Italians....the horror stories are still out there, but ask the people who might have experienced it and they all say the same thing...they have not heard of it and certainly not had it happen to them.
No doubt there have been isolated incidents but to say that it happened all the time and to all the Greek migrants is just too far fetched to be believable.
on 24-10-2014 06:04 PM
@**dirty.girl** wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:Muslim woman are being shouted at in the streets and being physically assaulted by cowardly idiots, is that "lucky"?
Still a step-up from Greek children being given kerosene to drink and/or nearly drowned in rivers in the 1950's. Yes, Muslim woman are very lucky compared to the Greeks back then.
where'd ya get that from, dirtygirl?
i remember wogs got teased at school.. by the other kids (60s early 70s)
we shifted around a far bit and at one school i revealed that my parents are hungarian
although i looked like the norm it still gave them an excuse to tease, but when they did i would simple beat the carp out of them
(depended on the circumstances)
i never heard stories to that extent - what you were referring to
on 24-10-2014 06:11 PM
you are speaking from experience then, dirtygirl?
on 24-10-2014 06:13 PM
In the late 50's our neighbours were Greek. 2 families living in one house, children the same age as our family and going to the same schools, we had meals together, played together, a street of around 50 houses and not 1 neighbour was "against" them.
The 2 families owned the local cafe, the grandparents and parents had limited English skills for about a year........... but that was multiculturalism and inclusion for us. Yumm Greek Food!
24-10-2014 06:15 PM - edited 24-10-2014 06:16 PM
And the Greek kids were lucky that they didn't have to see their fathers locked up in itnernent camps by a paranoid government during WWII
24-10-2014 06:22 PM - edited 24-10-2014 06:22 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:And the Greek kids were lucky that they didn't have to see their fathers locked up in itnernent camps by a paranoid government during WWII
No, the Greek kids were just seeing their fathers hung and shot in the head by the Gestapo, before fleeing their homeland.
on 24-10-2014 06:28 PM
*ebay musta brought back the ignore feature*