Nightmare in Germany

[moonflyte]

 If you think it can't happen here, well it already has. It's a long article but well worth the read to understand just what unwanted mass illegal immigration results in.

Europe was once the exemplar of the good society when seen through the dreamy eyes of Australian sophisticates.

Now, like the images of disease and deformity on cigarette packets, Europe serves as a graphic warning. We must quit our addiction to social engineering before it’s too late.

The European financial crisis of 2008 demonstrated the limits to government spending. This year’s chaos at the borders shows the limits of mass migration. Europe has been eroded of social as well as financial capital.

Anxiety surfaces in many different ways. In Sweden, a woman emailed her prime minister to tell him she had moved out from the suburb in which she was born because it was impossible to walk her dogs “due to the non-Europeans driving on the sidewalks”.

“If you didn’t move out of the way, they would jump out of the car and hit you,” she complained.

In Pocking in Lower Bavaria, the local school recently advised children to wear “restrained everyday clothes” after 200 male asylum-seekers were billeted in the German village. “Transparent tops or blouses, short shorts or miniskirts could lead to misunderstandings,” it said.

A local politician told Die Welt advice of this kind was “absolutely necessary”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/nightmare-behind-the-diversity-dream-revealed/sto...

[***super_nova***]

I cannot see anybody saying that million people were granted asylum; the above post said that million arrived seeking asylum.  Obviously those who behave in such a way as desribed will not be accepted.  If possible they will be deported, and those who actually commited robery, asault and rape will end up in jail.

[raptor_rebooted]

super nova -

the post i was actually referring to said:

Is it possible that a handful of the people who came with the million genuine asylum seekers

and as i said, as far as i know

there is still a huge number of 

people whose legal status ie genuine

asylum seeker - is yet to be determined.

the german gov was considering

using military aircraft to deport those

who were not genuine asylum seekers

to cope with the large numbers, 

claiming a third are economic migrants.

[***super_nova***]

I certainly have not heard that as many as 1/3 are considered economic refugees by the government; calling these people economic migrants were the neo-Nazis, who are also calling them uncivilized uneducated animals.  How can anybody escaping Syria or Iraq not be genuine refugee?   They are asylum seekers, until their status as a refugee is confirmed.  But it really does not matter; the point is that anybody who wants to stay in Europe; for what ever reason, will  be extremely stupid to do anything that would compromise their application.  If there are people from other countries trying to sneak in with the Syrians they would have double the reason to lay low and not to draw any negative attention.

Last night on the news they said that there is about 1/2 million people in Syria in areas cut off from food supplies and these people will die of starvation unless something is done for them.

[raptor_rebooted]

I certainly have not heard that as many as 1/3 are considered economic refugees by the government; calling these people economic migrants were the neo-Nazis,

i certainly did not hear it from

the neo-nazis 

Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government has unveiled a number of tough new measures, including the use of military aircraft, to deport tens of thousands of unwelcome economic migrants in an attempt to defuse mounting criticism of her open-door refugee policy.

In Germany, under the new plans scheduled to come into operation next week, Luftwaffe pilots will be made available to fly military transport planes to ferry economic migrants from Germany back to so-called “safe” countries such as Albania, Kosovo and Montenegro. 

Government figures released on Wednesday show there are currently 193,500 economic migrants in Germany who the authorities had failed to return home after their applications for asylum had been rejected.

The government also said it wouldn’t give warning of forthcoming deportations and would end its previous policy of delaying the return of unwelcome migrants during the winter. Legal rights enabling migrants to challenge deportation orders would also be curbed. 

The measures include plans for “transit zones” on Germany’s borders from where people could be deported before gaining full entry to the country. More than 40 per cent of Germany’s migrants were last month reported to have come from recently deemed “safe” countries.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-angela-merkel-signals-deportation-of-e...

Austrian police authorities say Germany has been sending a few hundred refugees back to Austria, its southern neighbor, every day since the start of 2016.

Austria itself deported hundreds of migrants back to neighboring Slovenia in December 2015 on the ground that they had allegedly lied about their nationality in a failed attempt to be granted asylum.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/01/12/445456/Germany-refugee-deportations-Austria-Merkel/

While many of the refugees arriving in Germany are fleeing war in the Middle East, as many as a third are considered economic migrants and are likely to be deported.

http://www.dw.com/en/germany-considering-use-of-military-aircraft-to-deport-refugees/a-18794777

[icyfroth]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

Last night on the news they said that there is about 1/2 million people in Syria in areas cut off from food supplies and these people will die of starvation unless something is done for them.

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The Western news media are at it again – telling barefaced lies and half-truths about starving towns in Syria being liberated from sieges. Fake images of emaciated children are also being published to shore up their fraudulent narrative.

Take the image of the malnourished little girl whom the BBC and the British Independent newspaper claimed was from the Syrian town of Madaya.

Turns out the girl is from south Lebanon. Her name is Marianna Mazeh. The photo published widely this week by Western media is from three years ago, yet the same media are claiming that she is one of the residents of the Syrian town of Madaya, which the Western media also say is being blockaded by the governments forces of President Bashar al-Assad. 

Turns out too that Marianna's family are infuriated that her forlorn image is being circulated for propaganda purposes. "I live in Tayr Filsey [south Lebanon], not Madaya, and I am fine," the little girl told Al Manar news agency.

She is now aged seven and apparently has made a full recovery from her earlier emaciated condition. The reason for her previous illness is not clear.

British state-owned broadcaster BBC tells us that there are up to 400,000 people being held in some 15 besieged towns across Syria. The BBC and other Western media refer to these places as "rebel-held", and by a process of outright lies or half-truths, it is inferred that the locations are being besieged by the Syrian army, supported by Hezbollah militia and Russian air power.

Occasionally, the Western media let slip, like when the New York Times reported this week on "people being shot as they try to escape" the captive towns. The people are being shot — by the so-called rebels holding the residents as hostages, but the NY Times omitted that fact.

The half-truth that the Western media don't tell is that many towns in Syria have been, and are still, taken over by foreign-backed mercenary militia. They are terrorists, not "rebels", belonging to such groups as the so-called Islamic State (or Daesh), al Nusra Front and Jaish al-Islam. All of them espouse a twisted, corrupted version of Islam, which ordains that anyone opposed to them can be beheaded or their children gang-raped.

The Western media portray the "Syrian regime" forces as having blockaded the towns and using starvation as a weapon against the residents. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The populations have been held hostage by the terror groups and used as "human shields" to prevent the Syrian army advancing to liberate those being held against their will.

Entire Article Here

[debra9275]

Occasionally, the Western media let slip, like when the New York Times reported this week on "people being shot as they try to escape" the captive towns. The people are being shot — by the so-called rebels holding the residents as hostages, but the NY Times omitted that fact.

The half-truth that the Western media don't tell is that many towns in Syria have been, and are still, taken over by foreign-backed mercenary militia. They are terrorists, not "rebels", belonging to such groups as the so-called Islamic State (or Daesh), al Nusra Front and Jaish al-Islam. All of them espouse a twisted, corrupted version of Islam, which ordains that anyone opposed to them can be beheaded or their children gang-raped.

The Western media portray the "Syrian regime" forces as having blockaded the towns and using starvation as a weapon against the residents. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The half-truth that the Western media don't tell is that many towns in Syria have been, and are still, taken over by foreign-backed mercenary militia. They are terrorists, not "rebels", belonging to such groups as the so-called Islamic State (or Daesh), al Nusra Front and Jaish al-Islam

have you even read the Russian article you've posted a link to?

don't forget the Russians are backing the Assad regime, we (the coalition are backing the rebels)

[raptor_rebooted]

Take the image of the malnourished little girl whom the BBC and the British Independent newspaper claimed was from the Syrian town of Madaya.

Turns out the girl is from south Lebanon. Her name is Marianna Mazeh. The photo published widely this week by Western media is from three years ago, yet the same media are claiming that she is one of the residents of the Syrian town of Madaya, which the Western media also say is being blockaded by the governments forces of President Bashar al-Assad. 

BEIRUT: The family of a south Lebanon girl depicted in a photo that went viral alleging to show a starving child from a besieged Syrian border town [Madaya] has expressed anger over the incident.

"They took it too far this time," Rosine Mazeh, the grandmother of 7-year-old Marianna Mazeh, told Al-Jadeed from their village of Tay Filsey in a report broadcast Saturday.

She said the photo of her smiling brown-haired, blue-eyed granddaughter was originally posted to Facebook three years ago and had been doctored several times in the past by individuals promoting different causes.

Most recently, the photo was circulated in a side-by-side with images depicting a skeletal figure said to be suffering from malnutrition as a result of a Syrian army siege in the town of Madaya, located several kilometers east of Lebanon's border.

Several other photos circulating on social media and picked up by some international news agencies that alleged to show starvation from the town have also been revealed as fakes.

"It has affected her a lot," Mazeh said. "Every time someone brings it up she puts her head down and becomes shy. At school, they keep on talking about the topic. She's not comfortable with it at all."

Abdel-Wahhab Mazeh, the girl's uncle, said the photo was taken outside a mini market in their village where she had gone to buy chewing gum.

"When we saw this, we tried as hard as we could to show that this picture wasn't right," he told Al-Jadeed, pointing to a location on the ground where he said she was standing when the photo was taken.

The girl and her father spoke during a separate report broadcast Saturday on Al-Manar from outside their home.

"I live in Tayr Filsey, not Madaya, and I am fine," she said."

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2016/Jan-09/331101-starving-syria-child-revealed-as-so...

[icyfroth]

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@debra9275 wrote:

don't forget the Russians are backing the Assad regime, we (the coalition are backing the rebels)

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Exactly. Why are we? What business do we have there?

The US business of helping topple an elected leader of a country in order to isolate Russia? 

Because that's the whole purpose of the war in Syria. Put in US friendly governments to keep the oil cartels in power and the dollars flowing.

So we help bomb the place to smithereens and create waves of misery and refugees.

What did they ever do to us?

[debra9275]

and that is exactly why I have a bit of compassion for all the refugees pouring out of there . 

the Russians are the only ones who have tried to stop the Isis truck convoys of oil being channeled through Turkey to an Israeli oil refinery

but my original point was that you will see propaganda from both sides.

were'nt we initially told that we were there to fight Isis??

[icyfroth]

We can be told anything.

Most ppl don't question what they see on the television and on social media.