Offensive place names. In this day and age I can't believe they are still named as such!

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Offensive place names. I this day and age I can't believe they are still named as such!

I saw the post below from the discussion that has now been locked. Wow! I didn't even know about this place. We're in the 21st century and there are still places named like this. What's wrong with Australia?????

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@rogespeed wrote:
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47 minutes ago - last edited 43 minutes ago

I suppose they will want to change Mount Niggerhead's name next.

https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Coon-cheese-s-name-to-be-changed-over-racism-conce...

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So I did a search on  the Internet and this came up.

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An Aboriginal group plans to sue the Victorian Government for ignoring its heritage in the renaming of Mt Niggerhead, a mountain in the Alpine National Park.

November 17, 2008 — 11.02am

For decades, the 1846-metre Mount Niggerhead in the state's north-east has been at the centre of a heated debate about its name.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/aboriginal-group-outraged-over-naming-of-mountain-20081117-68gq.html

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Why Niggerhead Rock and Suicide Bay need Tasmanian Aboriginal names

By Rhiannon Shine

Posted SatSaturday 6 MayMay 2017 at 11:58am, updated SatSaturday 6 MayMay 2017 at 2:57pm

 

Niggerhead Rock 'pretty damn offensive'

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-06/offensive-tasmanian-place-names-replaced-with-aboriginal-word...

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**bleep** Head Facts for Kids - Kiddle encyclopedia

kids.kiddle.co › Nigger_Head

May 22, 2020 - **bleep** Head is a small island in the northern part of Shelburne Bay in far north Queensland, Australia about 30 km north of Cape Grenville, ...

https://kids.kiddle.co/Nigger_Head

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So there are three places in Australia with this name. Again, this is 2020, something very wrong with our history and society. Very wrong. If they can bring Uluru back, then why not get rid of these disgusting names? They were named in a time when the people who had the power to name them as such because certain races were deemed to be inferior.

I haven't had a look at all of them to see if any of the names have been changed. I hope one has.

BTW: Kudos to Mr. Hagan for getting the offensive  name of that sports oval changed.

[rogespeed]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@rogespeed wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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@springyzone wrote:

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Since negro is widely taken as offensive now, maybe a word from one of the European languages could be adopted.

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Negro means black in Spanish.  It's the name of the colour.  If you buy set of colour pencils, the black ones will have NEGRO written on them.  The word, used to describe colour in any language should not be considered offensive.  No country should be expected to change perfectly inoffensive word.  The problem is when the word is used as an insult, which it was in the past, but from going to various American forums, the American Africans describe themselves as black.  I personally think describing them as "American Africans" should be offensive; most lived in the USA for longer than many migrants from Europe, yet nobody says "European Americans", and there are some who think that black people should be sent back to Africa.

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Liberia awaits for malcontents ... 

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People tend to find offense where they look for it.

"negro" is the latin for "black".

No more,no less.

I don't see why being  labelled "black" should be seen to be derogatory. As against being labelled "white", for instance.

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In thinking of American historical use I get the impression it was the derivative version that causes offense , as it was traditionally used there with verbal venom in a disparaging way 

[icyfroth]

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@rogespeed wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@rogespeed wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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@springyzone wrote:

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Since negro is widely taken as offensive now, maybe a word from one of the European languages could be adopted.

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Negro means black in Spanish.  It's the name of the colour.  If you buy set of colour pencils, the black ones will have NEGRO written on them.  The word, used to describe colour in any language should not be considered offensive.  No country should be expected to change perfectly inoffensive word.  The problem is when the word is used as an insult, which it was in the past, but from going to various American forums, the American Africans describe themselves as black.  I personally think describing them as "American Africans" should be offensive; most lived in the USA for longer than many migrants from Europe, yet nobody says "European Americans", and there are some who think that black people should be sent back to Africa.

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Liberia awaits for malcontents ... 

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People tend to find offense where they look for it.

"negro" is the latin for "black".

No more,no less.

I don't see why being  labelled "black" should be seen to be derogatory. As against being labelled "white", for instance.

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In thinking of American historical use I get the impression it was the derivative version that causes offense , as it was traditionally used there with verbal venom in a disparaging way 

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Yes,there is that.

[springyzone]

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@rogespeed wrote:

I think to many influencers within society are becoming so trite yet indignant if affronted , that many can not cope with dealing with the legitimate use of a word and it's use in other contexts as a metaphor  - therefor the default reaction is to banish the word

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Yes. I personally don't mind what people prefer to be called. If someone prefers to be called black, that's fine, same as it is fine (to me) to call someone white.  They are just descriptive terms.

But what really gets me down is extrapolating from that and not allowing the word black to be used in any other context. If we are going to get into trouble for terms such as black sheep or black magic, then for heavens sakes, the black people need to decide on another term, I don't know why black has to be hijacked.

The example someone gave of their daughter asking a person if they took their coffee black or white was just over the top for me.

I don't care if the milk should be in a jug, I don't care if the person could have said milk. They weren't talking about skin colour. Black & white are common terms for coffee. For anyone of any colour to take offence is just getting to the point of ridiculous.

[the_great_she_elephant]

Icyfroth wrote:  They finally deigned to come over after several invitations.

Does this comment say more about the invitees, or your assumptions about them?

[lionrose.7]

This thing about colour is hard for me, when I was at school and said to mom I am bring a for home for dinner or stay the week end I never had to say she was Chinese, Maori or Islander, every one was accepted for who they were.

Got a shock when I went to America and heard my Brother inlaw say to his Daugher she could not play with a certain Child,

I asked my sister inlaw why and she said that is just how it is over here, she was English.

As I have said before heard some b awful stuff in Australia as well.

In New Zealand the first time I heard any thing about race is when a lot of Poms where came to NZ to live.

We had a lot of South Africans come to NZ when I was a Property Manager most where really nice, One family I got the people at work to donate toys and books for thier children

BUT this one guy, I had to tell him you will not fit in to New Zealand if you go around saying things like that, never heard so much racist stuff before in my life, his wife at least looked embarrassed 

[icyfroth]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Icyfroth wrote:  They finally deigned to come over after several invitations.

Does this comment say more about the invitees, or your assumptions about them?

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Interpret at will...

[not_for_sale2025]

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@springyzone wrote:

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@rogespeed wrote:

I think to many influencers within society are becoming so trite yet indignant if affronted , that many can not cope with dealing with the legitimate use of a word and it's use in other contexts as a metaphor  - therefor the default reaction is to banish the word

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Yes. I personally don't mind what people prefer to be called. If someone prefers to be called black, that's fine, same as it is fine (to me) to call someone white.  They are just descriptive terms.

But what really gets me down is extrapolating from that and not allowing the word black to be used in any other context. If we are going to get into trouble for terms such as black sheep or black magic, then for heavens sakes, the black people need to decide on another term, I don't know why black has to be hijacked.

The example someone gave of their daughter asking a person if they took their coffee black or white was just over the top for me.

I don't care if the milk should be in a jug, I don't care if the person could have said milk. They weren't talking about skin colour. Black & white are common terms for coffee. For anyone of any colour to take offence is just getting to the point of ridiculous.

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I think a lot of the people who go on about racism are trouble makers who are looking for attention and who are wanting to split people from different races. I pay little attention to them. Then there are those who can become upset if they interpret a racist comment. I certainly do not want to offend them. But it can become difficult in trying to work out who is genuine and who is just looking for an opportunity to attack.

I've seen a lot of videos and images over the last weeks of white people waving "Black lives matter" banners across the world. I am not aware of any complaints about the wording. I also assume the wording is fine because I have seen many black people waving the same banners alongside the white people. So surely it is reasonable to assume that 'black' is not regarded as offensive if used in a positive way.

What has been lost over time is the question of intent. Whether the use of the word 'black' was intended to be offensive or not is the real issue IMO. But hey, I too have been barreled for making comments that were totally innocent and with no offense intended. Dunno what the solution is.

[domino-710]

Stop - just cease using - adjectives.

Ban the whole lot. 

Geez.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@domino-710 wrote:

Stop - just cease using - adjectives.

Ban the whole lot. 

Geez.

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Why? And the whole lot of what? Just who are determining what are acceptable adjectives and what are not.

[davewil1964]

I once had a potential (non) customer try to jump the taxi queue. He claimed it was because his flat-stomached partner was pregnant and they needed to get home.

I referred him to my legitimate customer, who declined to give up her place.

I was then accused of being racist, to which I replied that a d*h is a d*h no matter where they're born. No discrimination from me; money's money.

There are always those who will play the racist card when they don't get their way. Some of them are even stupid enough to take a swing.