Oh doesn't it just fill you with joy

[darksideofthemoon]

I have just heard Tony Abbot say on the news tonight that they will 'abolish the carbon tax' 😐

[monman12]

FN: "He's also getting a fibre optic connection to his office, as are all electorate offices because their current broadband services are not good enough."

"The upgrade has nothing to do with NBN Co. It is part of a commercial contract awarded by the Department of Parliamentary Services to Telstra last year."

A lot of irony there!. Telstra installing fibre connections and  not the NBN, considering the NBN pressured the government to pass legislation preventing Telstra competing with them.

I suppose the impatient MPs could not wait until Halley's Comet next passed for the NBN to connect them all.

[debra9275]

What he means is he's going to scrap the current one, impose one of his own, and call it something different.

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Lol probably She-ele

[freakiness]

FN: "He's also getting a fibre optic connection to his office, as are all electorate offices because their current broadband services are not good enough."

"The upgrade has nothing to do with NBN Co. It is part of a commercial contract awarded by the Department of Parliamentary Services to Telstra last year."

A lot of irony there!. Telstra installing fibre connections and  not the NBN, considering the NBN pressured the government to pass legislation preventing Telstra competing with them.

I suppose the impatient MPs could not wait until Halley's Comet next passed for the NBN to connect them all.

The legislation was not only designed to stop Telstra from competing with them.

What irony? Telstra do deals all over the country, including with NBN Co.

The deal with NBN Co was mainly to access their pits and ducts and to replace the cable. That's not about competition, it's to get unbiquity. Cable has inadequate upload capacity and becoming obsolete.

It's nothing like the irony of MPs sayiing we don't need it then getting their offices FiOed up. Or the irony of Turnbull saying FTTP is not the best then buying shares in OS FTTP projects.

[monman12]

FN: "The legislation was not only designed to stop Telstra from competing with them.'
Agreed, it was also designed to shut down the similarily efficient (and fast) Optus HFC network

"What irony? Telstra do deals all over the country, including with NBN Co." The irony is that they can not directly compete FN,  the MP's in order to receive FTTH quickly turned to Telstra, which the NBN have ensured for fibre network competition have been muzzled.

"The deal with NBN Co was mainly to access their pits and ducts and to replace the cable. That's not about competition, it's to get unbiquity. Cable has inadequate upload capacity and becoming obsolete."
Nonsense, HFC has  up to  100Mbps capability, and why do you think Telstra's HFC  will still deliver Foxtel over the "obselete" cable? The "deal" was to discontinue the communications portion (data/voice) of Telstra copper & HFC, and to also close down all of the perfectly good Optus HFC network, to prevent competition.

"Or the irony of Turnbull saying FTTP is not the best then buying shares in OS FTTP projects."
Ironic? buying shares in France Télécom, which is able to deploy fibre to the premises “for one twelfth of the cost of the NBN” and is a huge profitable privatised company with no government "protection".

The NBN start-up was shunned by private venture capital, why?
Turnbull is a businessman and buys shares that will be profitable, I would not touch NBN in a fit (if it was worth floating) but I have a lot of Telstra  shares.
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[not_an_eloi]

yeh, a businessman (who bought into the business) ,  but NOT a techy with the skills to understand the intricacies of the NBN,  

that why (like all liberals) he wants a user-pays system (fibre on demand) for australians 

http://delimiter.com.au/2013/02/19/turnbull-wants-user-pays-ftth-model/

anybody who is mad enough to vote liberal 'as got rockz-for-brainz

[freakiness]

No, John you've got it wrong.

Anyone can build all the fibre access network or private networks that they wish to build.

They are just not allowed to demand exclusive rights to whole estates, they have to comply with the NBN open access standard.  Anybody that wishes can still purchase fibre from Telstra.

The HFC network is being shut down, not to stop compeition but to provide services to all. Where the HFC networks are there are huge gaps where people are not able to access services. Both Telstra and Optus want to be rid of their HFC networks.

Most of the HFC has 100Mb download with very limited upload.

Upload is imortant these days as well as download.

Partially to prevent competition, mainly to allow ubiquity.

There is no HFC to MDUs, are they just supposed to go without?

It is for a variety of reasons, not just competition. The future of telco competition is in the retail market.

The last price tag I saw was $15B for the France FTTP project and that was for 2 cities.

Almost every industry expert in the world that has spoken about our NBN has had extremely positive things to say about it. Not only talking it up but building and investing in Australia to take advantage.

You know it can't fail so why begrudge the entire country getting an adequate service?

[freakiness]

yeh, a businessman (who bought into the business) ,  but NOT a techy with the skills to understand the intricacies of the NBN,  

that why (like all liberals) he wants a user-pays system (fibre on demand) for australians 

http://delimiter.com.au/2013/02/19/turnbull-wants-user-pays-ftth-model/

anybody who is mad enough to vote liberal 'as got rockz-for-brainz

The Coalition plan for FTTN does not include regional areas. Basically their plan is to use FTTP for new estates and let people buy their own if they want FTTP in metropolitan areas.  The rest apparently can use the new satellites that NBN has ordered and the towers they have started work on.