One in Three (or One in Two): The untold story of male victims of family/domestic violence

[4c4sale]

This is a seriously undertold story, and this website is a good place to learn the truth about the staggering number of male victims of domestic abuse in Australia:

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/

Men are MUCH less likely (three times less likely it seems) to report being battered and attacked by their female partners than women who are attacked by men, and further, men have less support if they do speak out.

Men may face scorn, derision and disbelief when they report being abused.

If one considers the vastly lower reporting of these incidents by men, and combines this with the higher number of women who abuse children, it arises that women - not men - are the majority domestic abusers in Australia, Great Britain and the United States.

Time to start spreading this truth, and working for change on BOTH sides of the gender equation.

[katydidthat]

I agree, Siggie. Difficult to have a discussion when the stats tell a different story.

Thanks for all the kudos, 4C. Jolly nice of you.

[4c4sale]

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@thegoblinswillgetu wrote:

A man would have less baggage, be more financially secure and have more opportunity to walk away from an abusive situation. A woman's chance for a safe window to make her escape would be limited. She probably depends on the man for money, and if there are children involved she would have to plan for their safety as well. Just saying, does not justify abuse of any type.

No links. 

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This presumes a GREAT deal, and is generally incorrect.

[ruloinfovoter]

Here:

Source: ABS 2010; AIC NHMP 1989–90 to 2009–10 [computer file]

The representation of male and female homicide victims varies depending on the type of homicide (see Table 10). Throughout 2008–09 and 2009–10, 194 victims were killed by an offender with whom they shared a principal domestic relationship, of which close to two in five (n=75; 39%) of these victims were male, while approximately three in five (n=116; 61%) were female.

39% of 194 is 75.

[4c4sale]

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@katydidthat wrote:

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@karliandjacko wrote:

Another point the OP misses is that most often when women are violent the partner is also violent.

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I agree, Karli ... another issue is the degree of damage that can be done by most women to most men.  

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What is the source of the claim that violent women have violent partners?

If this can be established, can the initiator of the abuse be identified as the male?

As far as degree of damage, females seem more likely to use weapons against adult males.

When it's mother on child abuse, the woman is generally capable of doing the most damage. (Physically and psychologically.)

[thegoblinswillgetu]

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@4c4sale wrote:

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@thegoblinswillgetu wrote:

A man would have less baggage, be more financially secure and have more opportunity to walk away from an abusive situation. A woman's chance for a safe window to make her escape would be limited. She probably depends on the man for money, and if there are children involved she would have to plan for their safety as well. Just saying, does not justify abuse of any type.

No links. 

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This presumes a GREAT deal, and is generally incorrect.

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Oh really?

Do you have a link for that?

[4c4sale]

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@katydidthat wrote:
DEB, I would be only too happy to discuss violence against men within a family situation, if almost all studies did not significantly contradict the claims made in the first link.

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The claims are correct, but even if they weren't, nothing prevents you from discussing the issues, nor from working toward reducing family/domestic abuse whether committed by women (the majority abusers), or men (the minority).

[katydidthat]

Another thing that the stats don't seem to shed light on is how many of the men killed were perpetrators of domestic violence against their wives/partners.

Is there anyone here who didn't read my link on the other thread about Susan Falls?

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/susan-falls-not-guilty-of-murder-20100603-x2xv.html

She was asked to nominate which of their children he would kill.

[lealta]

While there might be more children who are abused by women, by the sheer fact that women take care of children far more than men, the percentages show that men perpetrate more violence on children.  Here is a study done on children who only live with their mothers and children who only live with their fathers. 

Myth -- Mothers perpetrate more child abuse than fathers, which is one reason that children are at more risk of abuse in father-absent homes.

Fact: "Children living with their only their mothers experienced maltreatment under the Harm Standard at a rate of 26.1 per 1,000 children. Children living with only their fathers: 36.6 per 1,000."

Fact: PHYSICAL ABUSE: Children living with only their mothers: 6.4 per 1,000 children. Children living with only their fathers: 10.5 per 1,000 children. "When specific types of abuse under the Harm Standard are examined, it is apparent that the findings described in the previous paragraph stem from the disproportionate incidence of physical abuse among children in father-only households..."

Fact: NEGLECT: Children living with only their mothers: 16.7 per 1,000 children. Children living with only their fathers: 21.9 per 1,000 children.

Fact: EMOTIONAL NEGLECT: Children living with only their mothers: 3.4 per 1,000 children. Children living with only their fathers: 8.8 per 1,000 children.

Fact: SERIOUS INJURIES: Children living with only their mothers: 10.0 per 1,000 children. Children living with only their fathers: 14.0 per 1,000.

Fact: MODERATE INJURIES: Children living with only their mothers: 14.7 per 1,000 children. Children living with only their fathers: 20.5 per 1,000.

Fact: ALL MALTREATMENT: Children living with only their mothers: 50.1 per 1,000 children. Children living with only their fathers: 65.6 per 1,000.

Fact: ALL ABUSE: Children living with only their mothers: 18.1 per 1,000 children. Children living only with their fathers: 31.0 per 1,000."

Data from The Third National Incidence Study of Child Abuse and Neglect (1996). Also see http://dastardlydads.blogspot.com/2009/09/another-look-see-at-nis-3-or-what-do.html and http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/statistics.html

http://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-index/site-index-frame.html#soulhttp://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/s...

[4c4sale]

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@lealta wrote:

Where are you getting your statistics on the number of women who abuse their children and/or seniors?  I'd like to see that report.  Also, the title of YOUR topic is the "untold story of male victiims of family/domestic violence, not women beating their children.

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Google is your friend & mine, but I assumed most were aware that women are much more frequent abusers of children and seniors than men. Did I overestimate the knowedge level...? 

The fact of women as majority abusers is a significant one, and relates directly to the culture of abuse and violence created by women, and the topic.

[karliandjacko]

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@steppefjordwyfe10 wrote:

And because someone hasn't seen something, then it has never happened I suppose?  

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I think if women were knocking out men in hotel lobbies and elevators it would make the news. In fact when a women is caught in an act of violence it does make the news and it is used by the anti women groups to promote their belief that women are not the victims and that women are to blame for all that's wrong in society.