Pandemic over soon ...

[rogespeed]

with another day another 30,000+ cases within NSW the pandemic will surely end soon as they run out of the unvaccinated or will Camberra run out of unvaccinated first ? 

Fortunately the South Africans were correct in evaluating Omicron as being highly infectious but relatively mild - almost effectively the fourth vaccine for those fated to contract 

[rogespeed]

' Camberra ' is sure to run out first. 

I agree 

[janeababe]

It’s not just that the nurses and doctors are struggling to keep up, it’s also due to the fact that staff are becoming infected. We have 2 staff off atm, with covid. Both double vaccinated.  More will come, no doubt. 

Some remote health services are sooooo desperate for staff, they’ve offered enormous $$ benefits + accomodation + a car for use + all meals. 

Desperate times. We are short staffed. Staff are Doing overtime, double shifts, I’m currently on my 9th shift in a row, and still have tomorrow to go. 

We have to RAT test before each shift and log our results online. 

Scary times ahead I think! 🥺

[not_for_sale2025]

And the problem is widespread, beyond the hospitals. The Governments are stressing the importance of a booster to increase protection. Yet somebody close to me was meant to have hers last week at a surgery, but all of the nurses were unavailable because they are in quarantine. I'm told this is virtually the case everywhere. And many of my friends (nurses/doctors) are experiencing high levels of stress and are worried about the short and medium-term future.

[domino-710]

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@rogespeed wrote:

ongoing discussion : 

The unvaccinated - well - that's their problem.

Along with the problem of the health system.

....  and along with employment in VIC   ( need not apply : being a problem for the unvaccinated ) 

There is no - them - or - us - vaccinated or unvaccinated.

Both are able to catch - and - pass on - Covid.

" and remember the pandemic is the pandemic of the unvaccinated ! "  by Govt dictate 

The vaccinated will suffer less severe symptoms.

what is less severe symptoms than mild ? 

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What - has Delta left us.

[rogespeed]

I believe 100k new cases nationally in one day , thankfully most being self-managed at their home but that leaves critical services where for at least 3 weeks , unless is also the pandemic of the unemployed 

[rogespeed]

What - has Delta left us.

Omicron is outcompeting Delta , i suppose using popular covid thought : if a person is admited to hospital is Delta , if not is Omicron 

or delta cases pre omicron era minus total cases now to determine ratio of omicron infections to delta 

Delta death rate is quite low in Australia compared with many northern hemisphere countries 

and remember these are variants of concern , there are supposed to be  c100,000 variants out there circulating quietly somewhere - sniffles ? 

New coronavirus variant 'Deltacron' emerges in Cyprus; experts say 'not something to be worried abou...

Good idea to shore up your immune system 

[countessalmirena]

The pandemic is not over, and it's highly unlikely to be over soon.

I said at the start... when we first became alerted to this virus once cases began to be seen outside China... that this would become a pandemic. A family member wanted me to tell him in March that it would be over by the end of the year; I shook my head. I didn't want to disillusion or worry the family member too much, so I merely said, "It's going to take at least 2-3 years."

Omicron isn't going to be the last variant of concern; that's my view at this stage.

It's going to take a while longer; that's also my view at this stage.

The NSW premier made the wrong decision to allow the tossing away of masks, and I thought and said it at the time. (My words - internal and external - may have been somewhat Shakespearean.)

Relaxing restrictions in Victoria - also at the wrong time. Letting people remove masks in recital centres and concert halls, with masks only being "encouraged" to be worn? Madness.

IT'S. NOT. OVER.

[springyzone]

Absolutely! Madness. I couldn't believe it when NSW forged ahead to allow no masks. Melbourne isn't much better. It's such a little thing to ask of people and if it makes a difference, why remove the requirements?

Back at the start, I recall looking up the stats on Spanish flu as a guide and saying 2-3 years there. But we live in a society that wants 'instant' everything. I don't think anyone really believed me.

The pandemic isn't over. I was reading that it will officially be over once numbers stabilise to a steady, predictable pattern, rather like the flu numbers each year. With none of these sudden surges.

That certainly isn't the case now. We are seeing a surge in numbers worldwide. It's not steady, it's not entirely predictable and it isn't easily handled by the hospital system. We're seeing a lot of elective surgery being put off. 

When the numbers of covid cases drop to a level where hospitals can carry on as usual with everything else, without covid putting a particular strain on everyone, then we'll know the end is in sight.

We are nowhere near that yet.

This is just a personal aside: I have a brother in law & his wife who are booked on a  double cruise in Oct 2022. To northern lights and then Mediterranean. Cruise was booked in 2019 for Oct 2021 but we all know how well that worked out, so the cruise was rescheduled.

They have invited us to book and go with them.  I haven't. I am not conviced that even by Oct 2022 that the travel industry will be all sorted and pretty well risk free, especially re travel insurance.

[rogespeed]

My understanding is : 

Has been decreed that the covid contagion is a pandemic of the unvaccinated

In regard to the above maybe reasonable to consider that all unvaxxxed that survive an infection should be counted in the same group as the vaxxxed , if so when the pool of unvaxxxed become zero the pandemic by definition should be declared over and all restrictions lifted

No unvaxxxed , no problems 

or else it is not a pandemic of the unvaxxxed , maybe a pandemic of the intrinsically unhealthy  in body and/or a high density viral loading lifestyle 

[rogespeed]

We as a nation had our chance to be free from the pest and let it burn out in those countries  less fortunate than us whereby we could reopen international borders with the virus having devolved to that of danger as the common cold