Pandora's Box: Is Hope good or evil?

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Bob Hope?
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@**freethinker_bob** wrote:

@am*3 wrote:

In reality, hope is the worst of all evils, because it prolongs man's torments.
- Friedrich Nietzsche


 

I can understand this. Say your daughter goes missing. Hope, even the slightest prolongs the agony as oppose to just finding out she has passed. 


Yes, I can see that too.

 

 

 

 

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replying to bob:

 


@paintsew007 wrote:

It's neither .

Hope fits into the area signposted 'grey area'. Depends on each and every situation

There's nothing right or wrong about having or advising someone to have hope.

Hope is okay a bit like Plum Jam really......

 

An explanation/analogy using plum jam :

You've hurt your big toe, badly, many months ago and it won't get better. An operation is not warranted. You have consulted with all the doctors, alternative health professionals in the land and beyond and tried all the medications and tonics nothing seems to help.....you happened to hear from a friends' friend that they had the same thing!! and they tried rubbing Plum Jam on their big toe every day and eventually it healed like new......so you buy/make a large pot of plum jam and dutifully apply gobs of it to your big toe, every morning. Lo and Behold! Your toe heals!

You were not harmed and the outcome was very satisfactory.

It gave you something 'positive' to do whilst the toe healed instead of just worrying about it.

 

I see 'hope' as negative if it is used as a lazy replacement for 'effort' to achieve a result otherwise I see nothing too evil about it.


 

I don't see your analogy as a good description of hope.

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That's what an analogy is......a 'comparison' I was not attempting to describe hope at all, nor is the purpose of an analogy to describe the original word/situation or whatever.

 

analogy
noun
noun: analogy; plural noun: analogies
a comparison between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
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There can be no hope without fear, and no fear without hope.” ― Baruch Spinoza. 

 

 

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"There can no more without faith"-Mike Patton:-Faith No More.
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Hope can never be EVIL... 

 

I think you mean is it a good thing or a bad thing.

 

Hope is what we all do automatically when something bad occurs.  We HOPE it stops soon.  We HOPE it gets better.  We HOPE and pray that our loved won will live.

 

We HOPE we win the lottery, but we know there is little chance of it Smiley Very Happy


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"Hope can never be EVIL..."

 

I beg to differ. Is it not evil for me to hope my ex-wife walks under a bus?

 

(I don't wish that for one moment, and am using it simply as an example)

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I think it's what hope is attached to -    

in the case of a close relative she was never told she was terminal, and we believe that the hope she had gave her energy and the will to live a lot longer and happily than if she'd known otherwise.  

 

 

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