Pauline Hanson calls for ban on Muslim immigration

[davidc4430]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-14/politics-blog-september-14/7842756

Does she not realise the muslims are here after hearing of us being over run by asians, they have come to throw the asians out of australia!

isnt that what she wanted last time she was in parliment?

just can't please some people, sheeesh!

[davidc4430]

well, best i can figure out from my vast knowledge of the kornran,

jews and christians drive fords and allah drives a holden.

[village_person]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

well, best i can figure out from my vast knowledge of the kornran,

jews and christians drive fords and allah drives a holden.

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C'mon davidc4430 let's have your understanding of the verse I put up.

While you cogitate you might like to tell us about this one:

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

When people say that male muslims are allowed to beat their wives muslims quickly jump in and say they are allowed to beat them 'lightly'. It says no such thing. A muslim could beat his wife with a baseball bat or a feather and he would be acting according to the koran.

The koran does not invite explanation.

[colic2bullsgirlore]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

well, best i can figure out from my vast knowledge of the kornran,

jews and christians drive fords and allah drives a holden.

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Mostly the male islam followers own/drive cars though you will see lots of jewish and christion women potteering off to church ^^^

and here was me a thunking this was a matriarchal dfriven forum???

I think you may have got the subject of this thread wrong David.

Pauline is only the mouthpiece for the One Nation party but I guess it's easier to garner the feeling of numptiness for a

single individual rather than the million odd Australians who voted for One Nation's policies.

Which of One nation's "Islamic" policies do you disagree with???

....for mine the interference of any religion in the governamce of the country where I live is unacceptable.

http://www.onenation.com.au/policies

Pauline Hanson's One Nation is a political party representing the people of Australia who are concerned that their will is being ignored by the two party system.

One Nation is committed to Australian sovereignty, the Constitution and Government of the people by the people for the people.

Based on this view we have developed policies reflecting the will of the people.

Our role as a political party is to select and recommend to the people candidates that we feel reflect our objectives and policies and are worthy of representing them and their will as dedicated parliamentary representatives.

http://www.onenation.com.au/policies/islam

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Policy on Islam

We will enact the following:

Call for an inquiry or Royal Commission to determine if Islam is a religion or political ideology

Stop further Muslim Immigration and the intake of Muslim refugees

Ban the Burqa and Niquab in public places

Driver’s licence cannot be obtained without showing the full face and having photo ID on driver’s licence

Surveillance cameras to be installed in all Mosques and schools. Mosques to be open to the public during all opening hours

No more mosques to be built until the inquiry is held

Oppose the introduction of Sharia Law

Investigate welfare payments paid to Muslims who may be in multiple marriages, having multiple children

Ban Halal certification. Halal certified food not to be provided in prisons or the armed services. Companies may comply for export but no monies must be paid

Call for a referendum to change Section 116 of the Australian Constitution

Muslims will not be allowed to be sworn in to Parliament under the Qur’an

Female genital mutilation to carry lengthy jail term

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country

Indonesia

Female genital mutilation Type I and IV is prevalent in Indonesia;[203][204][205][206] 97.5%[206] of the surveyed females from Muslim families (Muslim females are at least 85%[207] of females in Indonesia) are mutilated by age 18. In certain communities of Indonesia, mass female circumcision (khitanan massal) ceremony are organized by local Islamic foundations around Prophet Muhammad’s birthday.

Malaysia

Female genital mutilation Type I and IV is prevalent in Malaysia, where 93%[216][217] of females from Muslim families (at least 57% of the female population[218]) have been mutilated.[219][220][221] It is widely considered as a female sunnah tradition (sunat perempuan), typically done by midwife.

Below is a URL to a paper that links the major proportion of the funds gleaned in australia from Halal certification to Indonesian FGM

https://www.secular.org.au/wp-content/uploads/Halal-FGM_link.pdf

Some Australian halal-certification funds have been proven to go to a leading endorser of FGM in Indonesia.

Australian halal-certification organisations linked to this endorser still enjoy charitable status.

Nine out of the top ten countries that practice female genital mutilation (FGM), in terms of prevalence by population, are Muslim majority nations according to statistics released by UNICEF and combined with PEW Research Center religious population data.

These top ten countries are all situated in Africa, and statistics show that  the majority of their females aged 15 to 49 years old have suffered FGM—as many as 98% in Somalia.

In 2015, the ABC’s Four Corners "The Truth About Halal’ program found that a significant proportion of Australian
halal-certification funds are distributed to Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI)—Indonesia’s top halal authority and
a leading endorser of FGM.

MUI, also known as the Indonesian Ulema Council, is a quasi-governmental body recognised as Indonesia’s most senior Islamic group, making halal certification fees a nice little earner for the Indonesian government, which legislated that all products sold in Indonesia must be halal certified.

Even more concerning is that MUI has issued a fatwa stating that ‘female circumcision’ (often a euphemism for
FGM) is a religious obligation for Muslim women as part of Sharia (Islamic law), and should be performed to control
women’s sexual desire. Additionally, MUI managed to get an earlier (2006) ban on FGM overturned in Indonesia in 2008.

[davidc4430]

..for mine the interference of any religion in the governamce of the country where I live is unacceptable

we allready have religion interfearing with the the governing of the country, i point to the argument over same sex mariage, do we really think the govt would be draging us to the polling booth if it wasnt for the religious side of govt pressuring for a no vote?

Call for an inquiry or Royal Commission to determine if Islam is a religion or political ideology

so pauline must think islam isnt a religion otherwise there would be no point in this inquiry. ms chip shop lady knows more than 99% of well educated people who hav e studied islam the religion for centurys.

Ban the Burqa and Niquab in public places. fine, but will she also ban the hoodie and sunglasses? beards? full face motorcycle helmets. ect ect.

Surveillance cameras to be installed in all Mosques and schools. Mosques to be open to the public during all opening hours

will pauline call for cameras in private schools and make them open to anyone to wander through at any time? put cameras in churches (where we know a lot of naughtiness has gone on) maybe cameras in private homes just in case.

Investigate welfare payments paid to Muslims who may be in multiple marriages, having multiple children.

yes, there must be thousands abusing our welfare system. if they are doing wrong they should be stopped.

Female genital mutilation to carry lengthy jail term

no problem there, those caught should go to jail. as should those in our society ear piercing children or having them tattooed.

Muslims will not be allowed to be sworn in to Parliament under the Qur’an

do we have any muslims sworn in to parliment under the Qur'an and if we do have they done anything against the australian laws to give us fear of them?

Some Australian halal-certification funds have been proven to go to a leading endorser of FGM in Indonesia.

Australian halal-certification organisations linked to this endorser still enjoy charitable status.

if there is evedence of such practices pauline can use her voice in the parlement to name and shame. put a face to these evil people and their organisations.

you see i see pauline speaking about things to cause fear in the community but she produces very little evedence of the things she says we must fear actually going on.

[davidc4430]

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

i think you will find up until the 1950s women were treated like posessions in australia by men. some still do i suspect.

as for allah being the exalted and grand, not so far back god was said to be the same and to many followers still is.

in my home only i am exalted and grand (when the cat lets me)

[tasfleur]

"in my home only i am exalted and grand (when the cat lets me)"

[davidc4430]

C'mon davidc4430 let's have your understanding of the verse I put up.

well i have put my brain into giving a thoughtful answer to this question

i have no understanding of the verse you 'put up'

i'm not muslim, never read the koran, never will.

but you could easily 'put up' a few hundred quotes from the bible and i couldnt explain them either as i've never read the bible either.

or any 'book' of any other reigion for that matter.

i do however think the only people who could give a true 'understanding' of the verse you 'put up' are very dead, some time in the years 600 - 800 when the koran was written. so says wikipedia.

from the time the orginal authors were no longer available to ask its been up to others to give their versions of what anything in the koran 'means'

i'm sure those ,meaning have been alterred over time from one extreme to another depending on the teachers views.

as has the bible i might add.

[lind9650]

The CEO of Australia Post is Muslim, earns about AU$5 million a year and gives half his earnings to Muslim organisations.

What is PH going to do about it? Is she going to ban Australia Post?

Erica

[the_great_she_elephant]

I wonder what the world would be like if religion were to be banned.

It would make very little difference. Religion is only another form of tribalism and tribalism is all about power  and dominance and seems to be inbuilt into the genes of homo sapiens.

 Jonathon Swift nailed  it beautifully in Gulliver's Travels.http://www.readwritethink.org/files/resources/lesson_images/lesson936/endian.pdf 

[davidc4430]

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@lind9650 wrote:

The CEO of Australia Post is Muslim, earns about AU$5 million a year and gives half his earnings to Muslim organisations.

What is PH going to do about it? Is she going to ban Australia Post?

Erica

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i expect she would ban muslims (and any non white anglo saxons) from holding positions of power.

reduce them to slave status in effect.