People who do not vaccinate will lose $

From January 2016 parents who do not vaccinate their kids will lose up to $15 000 in allowances/concessions, except in cases of medical  and some religious reasons. 

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And congratulations.
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@azureline** wrote:
We don't vaccinate for smallpox do we?


Not any more because it's hopefully been eradicated but we used to.  I have had a smallpox vaccination.  It's the one that leaves that round mark on the top of your left arm.  Maybe it wasn't given in Australia but it certainly was in England when I was at school.  Ouch! That was about the only really painful one.

 

 

 

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I also had the small pox vax.


Small pox was never endemic in Aus, it was introduced twice into Aus and as said before, killed a lot of Aboriginies but never did much in the white population - some by accidental infection, others I am not so sure as it is a very effective killer !




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Are you implying that smallpox was deliberately used as a way to murder? Or just joking? I'm not sure! 🙂

I haven't had the vaccine, but my mother has the scar. Someone I knew who had to work in an infectious diseases lab, was given the vaccine.

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Not sure in Aus, but in other countries it was used as a means of killing people, armies.


Re Aus, I know it killed a lot of Aboriginals, I doubt it was introduced on purpose, but since they would have never been exposed to it before,

it would have been devastating.

 

The Leichardt expedition(s) to NT was one example of the death of thousands and I doubt it was transported on purpose.



Small pox was rampant around the world at the time Aus was colonised, especially in the UK.




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Yes. I know a little of the history. Was wondering if you meant it had been used here, purposefully, to try to end lives. That I do not know about, you see.

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I would have to research it more as well. Not something I focus on when doing historical research.

I just had a quick look, it has been used in other countries as a bio weapon to kill the enemy and others.

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Ok, thanks.

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@janeababe wrote:

this topic is close to my heart atm, as my daughter and her partner have just announced that they will not be vacinating their new born twins.
I was initially distraught over this announcement, and actually lost sleep over it. I am pro-vacinations.

I did some research, then i did some reflecting.

As a child, my sister and i were both vacinated. I got mumps, we both got measles, and she got chicken pox. All by age 10.

My children were all vacinated. My son came home from school at aged 7 with chicken pox. He gave it to his sister aged 4, who in turn gave it to me, while i was heavily pregnant with child number 3.

Fast forward quite a few years and quite a few booster shots later, I hold no immunity to whooping cough whats-so-ever. I have had it 5 times already as a adult, despite booster shots. When my first grandchild was born, i even requested a *double-booster-shot* (given 2 wks apart) but my immunity level was minimal.

SO... while i was initially distraught about my new grand-daughters not being vacinated, i have to ask myself, is it fail safe anyway? My mother had my sister and i vacinated... we caught the very diseases we were vacinated against.  My children were vacinated, and they have been infected too.....

Last year, I had my immune levels checked..... sero-zilch! despite booster shots!
Is it the quality of the vacination? or have these diseases improved! super-bugs if you will.

I am still pro-vacination. I would hate for anyone to have to bury a child from a preventable disease.

 

 


Jane, like you I was always in favour of vaccinations without a second thought but I think these days I might be questioning and researching before rushing in.  On balance though, I think I would still have a baby fully vaccinated unless there was a medical reason for not doing so.

 

When I was a baby vaccinations were very new and there was only Diphtheria/Tetanus/Whooping Cough available, which I was given.

Thirty years later I had a very bad throat infection which would not respond to antibiotics and the doctor questioned whether I had been vaccinated as a baby as diphtheria was suspected.  My children were sent to my parents place on doctors orders, even though they had been vaccinated.   It was 5-6 weeks before I felt even slightly human.

 

Polio vaccinations only became available when I was 9 or 10 and the measles vaccine was introduced the year my eldest was born and my doctor refused to give it to her as he was not satisfied that it was safe.  It was several more years before the Measles/Mumps/Rubella jab was available.  My youngest did have the measles vaccination.

 

Smallpox was not advised for routine vaccination...you only had that if you were travelling overseas to a country where smallpox was still rampant.

 

My eldest had all the usual childhood diseases before she was 8 and her younger sister had everything before she even started school...she caught them from her school aged sister.  My mother caught mumps from my youngest, who was just 3 at the time.

 

I know things have changed drastically since I was a child....in fact even since my children were young.  Child care was not a fact of life for my girls as I was a stay at home mum before they started school but I am very glad the government did not hold anything over my head.   My decisions on vaccinations were made after discussions with my doctor, not because the government was wielding a big stick.

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 I think these days I might be questioning and researching before rushing in.

 

Unfortunately I think people wanting to research first are now part of the problem. Although we are now in an internet age where research should be easy, there is such an abundance of misinformation on the net that pretends to be factual its now more confusing than ever. If you have even the slightest doubt about vaccinating, you are likely to come across a load of websites that will reinforce those doubts even further and people seem to be unable to separate fact from fiction nowadays.

 

 

 

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