Pet industry should be shut down

[colic2bullsgirlore]

Of the 131,525 animals received nationally by the RSPCA for the 2011-2012 financial year, 49,688 had to be euthanised based on infectious, medical, behavioural, legal and other circumstances.

It is estimated that local councils shoot about the same number.

Animal shelter figures are harder to come by.

At least 150,000 animals slaughtered all in the name of companionship each year in Australia.

 Roaming cats continue to be blooded using our natural wildlife as live baits........ many many many of them eat rats

and mice  alive while others keep the same tortured animals ie. rats and mice as pets.

The companion animal industry needs to be closed down .....shame shame shame......

Tarring all pet owners with the same brush...... How does that feel???

[davidc4430]

i rekon a large proportion of 'dumped' dogs and cats are ones that cost the dumper nothing. if they have no value to the cretin then theres no reason not to throw them away as you would an empty drink bottle.

if you must pay over $200 for that pet i rekon your not going to throw it away, your more likely to try to get at least some of that money back if you no longer want the pet.

[grumpy*cat*rocks]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Not in NSW....unless the animals are microchipped they cannot be sold or given away.

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But they are.

Check out the local Facebook buying and selling page.

Or Gumtree.

Or local classifieds.

Heaps of dogs, cats, kittens and puppies either free or being sold. Most of them are not microchipped.

When you point out that it is law to have them microchipped you get abused by the person selling or giving them away, or someone else who has a go at you for interfering when someone is trying to find a new home for their unwanted animal/s.

"At least they are being responsible and trying to find new homes for them so leave them alone!" is what you get.

Umm, no, how about being responsible and having your animals desexed preventing unwanted litters or getting them microchipped as per law.

[grumpy*cat*rocks]

NSW microchipping laws. Transfer is the same as giving away.

NSW	Yes. Section 8 of the Companion Animals Act 1998 requires microchipping of cats and dogs prior to sale/transfer and by 12 weeks of age. Regulation 8 of the Companion Animals Regulation 2008 outlines what information must be recorded in the microchip database.

[lyndal1838]

So isn't that what I said?

You are always going to get someone who breaks the law and not just in relation to animals. 

All laws are only good if they can be/are enforced.

Maybe the ads on Gumtree or in the paper need reporting to the local council but will the council do anything?

I do know of at least one rural council that follows up on these complaints but I am sure they are in the minority.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@go-tazz wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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It would be interesting to know how many dogs running round the race tracks today have not been 'blooded' with live bait. Just because many trainers don't do it themselves doesn't mean they dont take them elsewhere for a few 'specialised' sessions. 

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That's the sort of belief that exacerbates the problem of people believing that they all do it,(which is completely

untrue).

It's the same belief where a Muslim terrorist might harm people but the entire Muslim community gets blamed.

It only adds fuel to the fire and it's a very unjust statement by someone that has no idea about greyhound

racing,(so shouldn't be making baseless suppositions),

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I wasn't making a supposition, I was saying I 'd be interested to know. Perhaps someone who has an  an indepth knowledge of the industry could provide statistics.
I do know, from the 4 Corners programme that the trainers filmed live baiting were not just 'blooding' their own dogs.

[davidc4430]

seems to me the 'industry' has split into 2 groups.

one group has ducked under the covers and is hoping it all goes away and they can carry on as it was before all the publicity.

the other group is yelling and screaming 'we didnt do nuffin man, its was just 1 or 2 bad guys'

neither group wants to know most non greyhound racing people feel the whole industry stinks.

[go-tazz]

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the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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I wasn't making a supposition, I was saying I 'd be interested to know. Perhaps someone who has an  an indepth knowledge of the industry could provide statistics.
I do know, from the 4 Corners programme that the trainers filmed live baiting were not just 'blooding' their own dogs.

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The bigger trainers don't have their own dogs,(they train dogs for a percentage of the prize money).

Because of their greed in trying to out do others they stooped to that reprehensible practise of baiting in the

belief that it would improve the dogs performance to keep the owners happy by winning some prize money,(and

making some money themselves).

Them then trying to blame others was only a way of trying to shift their blame,(that's the only "evidence" in

relation to baiting that the RSPCA has in that they said others do it and those "trainers" have "quoted a figure

of 10 to 20% which is not backed up by any evidence).

[go-tazz]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

neither group wants to know most non greyhound racing people feel the whole industry stinks.

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If they want to accuse people without evidence there is not a lot others can do as reason has gone out the

window and blind justice to tar everyone with the same brush still seems to exist.

It's unfair and unjust,

[***super_nova***]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Maybe the ads on Gumtree or in the paper need reporting to the local council but will the council do anything?

I do know of at least one rural council that follows up on these complaints but I am sure they are in the minority.

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I believe that if reported to Gumtree they will be removed.  If they do not, then reporting Gumtree to the state department of primary industries should get them in trouble.

[***super_nova***]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

i rekon a large proportion of 'dumped' dogs and cats are ones that cost the dumper nothing. if they have no value to the cretin then theres no reason not to throw them away as you would an empty drink bottle.

if you must pay over $200 for that pet i rekon your not going to throw it away, your more likely to try to get at least some of that money back if you no longer want the pet.

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I think most dogs are dumped because people cannot cope with their behaviour.  The dog might be noisy and people complain, or it may be dirty and doesn't matter what they do they wake up to a puddle of pile of **bleep** on the carpet when they let the dog sleep inside, or it is hyperactive and regardless how much they walk it,  it destroys the garden and chews everything in the house.  When people get a dog like a GAP greyhounds, which will be happy to sleep all day, are extremely clean, hardly ever bark, even if the owner might come to a patch in their life when they have to work more than normally, the dog will not be a problem, but of-course, GAP will always take dogs back should something happen that would prevent the owner to keep him.

I do not believe money makes much difference; $200 is not very much for many people, if the dog is difficult they are happy it is gone and the last thing they think about is the original cost.  Sadly, sometimes circumstances change, we should not judge people because they cannot cope with a dog anymore.  If somebody gets a difficult baby that screams day and night, and on the top of it the dog barks and neighbors complain.  Or if the bred winner loses their job, they cannot afford their mortgage or rent, and the only place they find to move in says absolutely no pets, what do you expect them to do?  Or when a petshop sells old person giant breed, which they cannot control and it is a threat to their health?   I do not think that being microchipped will prevent people taking dogs to RSPCA or adverise them free to good home.  By the way, just because people do not put the microchip numbers  in their ads, as is required, does not mean that the animal is not microchipped.