on 08-03-2014 02:29 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/malaysia-airlines-lost-contact-with-plane/5307888
Malaysia Airlines says one of its planes has gone missing on the way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board.
A statement from the airline says flight MH370 lost contact with air traffic controllers at 2:40am local time, just over two hours into the flight.
The plane, a Boeing 777-200, left Kuala Lumpur at 12:41am on Saturday, and had been due to arrive in Beijing at 6:30am local time.
The company says the plane was carrying 227 passengers, including two infants, and 12 crew members.
The airline says it is contacting the next-of-kin of all passengers and crew, which includes people of 13 different nationalities.
In a statement on the airline's website, group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said the airline was working with authorities to locate the aircraft.
"Focus of the airline is to work with the emergency responders and authorities and mobilise its full support," the statement said.
"Our thoughts and prayers are with all affected passengers and crew and their family members."
The airline says it will provide regular updates on its website.
The ABC understand Malaysia Airlines will hold a press conference on the incident shortly.
on 12-03-2014 02:10 PM
Unless a spelling mistake has something to do with the disappearance of the plane, I don't see the relevance to this thread. Meanwhile, there are over 320 people who are missing presumed dead......
12-03-2014 02:12 PM - edited 12-03-2014 02:13 PM
It was only a typo too.
on 12-03-2014 02:23 PM
@paintsew007 wrote:As has already been mentioned in this discussion - the plane/debris is nowhere to be seen. The black box emits a signal for 30 days - yet (conveniently) is mentioned in this discussion that last time this type of similar event occurred the black box was faulty.
Laser.
Maser.
Laser Radar.
Thermo Nucleic Devices.
Laser Microwave.
Satellite Weapons............
A vaporized plane would probably not leave an intact black box behind - nor any debris.
Question for Monman: John, would any of the above mentioned weapons be capable of 'vaporising' a plane to the extent that there was no debris left? Also could it be done without causing a massive energy burst that would be either seen heard or detected on radar over a wide area?.
on 12-03-2014 02:37 PM
@paintsew007 wrote:replying to am3:
yet (conveniently) is mentioned in this discussion that last time this type of similar event occurred the black box was faulty.
No, it wasn't mentioned (by me) conveniently. I was wondering if a black box was on the bottom of the ocean, emitting signals, who would hear it? ..if the searchers weren't anywhere near where the plane crashed (because they didn't know where the plane went down). There is nothing more to read into that post of mine than that.
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With technology that's available today one can simply track/locate any plane by using a lap top.
A signal from a planes black box is easy to locate.
What technology exactly and how?
What is the signal range for ULBs?
12-03-2014 02:41 PM - edited 12-03-2014 02:45 PM
A signal from a planes black box is easy to locate
That is something I wanted to know more about. If a searching plane or ship is not in close vicinity to where a missing plane went down, then they would be out of range and wouldn't be able to register (?) the pulses from the black box?
Does this answer your question about ULB'?. I have posted this about 3 times so far in this thread. From the company that manufacturer them
Lawrence Stone, chief scientist at Metron Scientific Solutions
Once active, the Dukane DK120 emits a pulse once a second that can be detected by sonar equipment up to two nautical miles away. The beacon works at a depth of 20,000 feet — far deeper than the waters where officials believe the Malaysian plane went down.
It’s made to stay active for at least 30 days, per an FAA requirement, but may last a few days longer than that, depending on when it was made.
on 12-03-2014 02:51 PM
Water inhibits radio so yes it could prevent the signal.
It may be plausible to listen at water level with an underwater
aerial but then it is not sonics.
The last plane that disapeared like this but a piece of tail was
found and it was in deeper water took 3 years to find the actual plane.
The reported sightings are becoming confusing added to which some
reports of the Airline holding back details of some outo transmitted data
is not helping.
on 12-03-2014 03:02 PM
what is the point of having ULBs then???
on 12-03-2014 03:02 PM
No TGSE, to both questions.
Apropos the latter question , search radars would not normally detect a thermal bloom from a massive energy burst, however there are more than enough satellites "up there" designed to detect just that.
However P007's conspiracist weapons store is worthy of a chuckle, as are most of his/her conspiracy theories.
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on 12-03-2014 03:04 PM
OK I stand corrected the DK120 is a sonar device which may be attatched to the "blackbox" or to the plane fuslarge
and there should be another beacon which relays via satellite if it is above water.
on 12-03-2014 06:00 PM
@monman12 wrote:No TGSE, to both questions.
Apropos the latter question , search radars would not normally detect a thermal bloom from a massive energy burst, however there are more than enough satellites "up there" designed to detect just that.
However P007's conspiracist weapons store is worthy of a chuckle, as are most of his/her conspiracy theories.
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Thanks, John, that's pretty much what I thought.