Please find another time for Protest

[the_bob_delusion]

If you're fighting to protect people's lives, why not start by not risking the innocent lives of everyone elses. Find another time. I will have more respect for you. I was just saying the other day: Thank God that Australians aren't as crazy as Americans and we have at least some common sense not to choose this time to protest. 

[lionrose.7]

That just makes the police criminals as well, Rape is wrong but so is Murder

[chameleon54]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

It is not about his crime; the point is that NOBODY should be killed by  police or prison guard.

"The Dunghutti man from Kempsey died in Sydney’s Long Bay jail on 29 December 2015 after guards rushed his cell to stop him eating biscuits, dragged him to another cell, then held him face down and had him injected with a sedative. Before he died he said 12 times that he could not breathe."

Why not let police shoot any suspect on the street, like they do in Philippines; saves time and money?

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You dont have to go to the Phillippines to see this. It happened in Australia just before the first BLM rallies. .........Oh hang on that was a person with mental health issues Australian police shot dead. His life doesnt matter to most of the people who post here. He wasnt from a Politically Correct minority was he ?

[the_bob_delusion]

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@lionrose.7 wrote:

That just makes the police criminals as well, Rape is wrong but so is Murder

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You won't find me marching for any violent criminal or rapist. And I definitely woudn't risk the lives and livelihood of others for them. 

[not_for_sale2025]

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

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@lionrose.7 wrote:

That just makes the police criminals as well, Rape is wrong but so is Murder

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You won't find me marching for any violent criminal or rapist. And I definitely woudn't risk the lives and livelihood of others for them. 

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I think I know where you are coming from, and I probably wouldn't march either. But this is a double edged sword. Some criminals are being killed by police officers when it is not justified. Many people view the police action as a greater criminal act and an unacceptable abuse of their powers. Even criminals have rights, such as the right to be arrested with force that is reasonable in the circumstances, not murdered.

[lyhargr_0]

I wonder if he thought the lives of the woman he raped or those he violently assaulted

mattered?

[the_bob_delusion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyTTxWtOBZM

Black people are in general more afraid of other black people. 

Ever noticed it always seem to be the white people seemingly fighting for black rights. I don't get that. 

[*kazumi*]

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

It is not about his crime; the point is that NOBODY should be killed by  police or prison guard.

"The Dunghutti man from Kempsey died in Sydney’s Long Bay jail on 29 December 2015 after guards rushed his cell to stop him eating biscuits, dragged him to another cell, then held him face down and had him injected with a sedative. Before he died he said 12 times that he could not breathe."

Why not let police shoot any suspect on the street, like they do in Philippines; saves time and money?

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You dont have to go to the Phillippines to see this. It happened in Australia just before the first BLM rallies. .........Oh hang on that was a person with mental health issues Australian police shot dead. His life doesnt matter to most of the people who post here. He wasnt from a Politically Correct minority was he ?

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That is not true, the problem is that it is disproportionally black people in the USA and the 1st nation people here who are killed in custody.  There is no epidemic of European background people being murdered, or white kids being jailed for stealing packet of biscuits.  And the consequences for the killer cops/guards are also different. 

BUT on the whole the protests are against police brutality against everybody.   And of course, there are times when killing somebody is wholly justified; just like the young man who was stabbing an older woman in the park, and continued stabbing her as the police approached.  I think she is still in the hospital fighting for her life.  If he was not killed at that precise moment, her condition would no doubt be worse with every additional stab wound. 

[*kazumi*]

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@lyhargr_0 wrote:

I wonder if he thought the lives of the woman he raped or those he violently assaulted

mattered?

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That is totally another matter.  He committed a crime for which he was appropriately sentenced.  So obviously the suffering of his victims was taken into account.  Unless you argue that he deserved death penalty, and that it is OK for prison guards to decide, and to execute prisoners, or just kill anybody they do not like, or just because they had a bad day?  That is an anarchy. 

It is the principle that matters. 

But i still am angry that people think it is OK to protest now.

[the_bob_delusion]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

It is not about his crime; the point is that NOBODY should be killed by  police or prison guard.

"The Dunghutti man from Kempsey died in Sydney’s Long Bay jail on 29 December 2015 after guards rushed his cell to stop him eating biscuits, dragged him to another cell, then held him face down and had him injected with a sedative. Before he died he said 12 times that he could not breathe."

Why not let police shoot any suspect on the street, like they do in Philippines; saves time and money?

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You dont have to go to the Phillippines to see this. It happened in Australia just before the first BLM rallies. .........Oh hang on that was a person with mental health issues Australian police shot dead. His life doesnt matter to most of the people who post here. He wasnt from a Politically Correct minority was he ?

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That is not true, the problem is that it is disproportionally black people in the USA and the 1st nation people here who are killed in custody.  There is no epidemic of European background people being murdered, or white kids being jailed for stealing packet of biscuits.  And the consequences for the killer cops/guards are also different. 

BUT on the whole the protests are against police brutality against everybody.   And of course, there are times when killing somebody is wholly justified; just like the young man who was stabbing an older woman in the park, and continued stabbing her as the police approached.  I think she is still in the hospital fighting for her life.  If he was not killed at that precise moment, her condition would no doubt be worse with every additional stab wound. 

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Yes it's disproportionally black people because they committ more crimes. Duh. If you have more white people in jail, you'll see police killing more of them.

The protestors keep harping on the figure of how many aborigines are killed in cusody. I looked it up. 99% of them are not killed by police. They die through other means, like suicide, killed by other imates, die of diseases etc etc. 

[icyfroth]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

It is not about his crime; the point is that NOBODY should be killed by  police or prison guard.

"The Dunghutti man from Kempsey died in Sydney’s Long Bay jail on 29 December 2015 after guards rushed his cell to stop him eating biscuits, dragged him to another cell, then held him face down and had him injected with a sedative. Before he died he said 12 times that he could not breathe."

Why not let police shoot any suspect on the street, like they do in Philippines; saves time and money?

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You dont have to go to the Phillippines to see this. It happened in Australia just before the first BLM rallies. .........Oh hang on that was a person with mental health issues Australian police shot dead. His life doesnt matter to most of the people who post here. He wasnt from a Politically Correct minority was he ?

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That is not true, the problem is that it is disproportionally black people in the USA and the 1st nation people here who are killed in custody.  There is no epidemic of European background people being murdered, or white kids being jailed for stealing packet of biscuits.  And the consequences for the killer cops/guards are also different. 

BUT on the whole the protests are against police brutality against everybody.   And of course, there are times when killing somebody is wholly justified; just like the young man who was stabbing an older woman in the park, and continued stabbing her as the police approached.  I think she is still in the hospital fighting for her life.  If he was not killed at that precise moment, her condition would no doubt be worse with every additional stab wound. 

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Oh but there was.

Back in the days of founding the fledgeling colony of Australia.

Thankfully we've come a long way since then.

Unfortunatley, we have not been able to carry the indigeneous population with us.

Back in the early days of white settlement, there were all kinds of epidemics. Smallpox, TB, venereal disease. Which of course was passed on to the indigenous population.

Maybe not of European (Brits tend no to indentify themselves as "European") but there were certainly poor (very poor to the point of starvation) white people in England being ground into death by poverty, thanks to the "Aristocracy". People so poor they had to steal (loaves of bread, packets of biscuits or whatever), to even survive to the next day.

And they were not treated kindly by the lawmakers of the day. Hangings were very common.

Try reading up on  your history, if you are of British convict descent. Even if you are of later British migrant descent. Or of an orphan transported to Australia to be used as slave labour.

White Australia did not treat it's aboriginal inhabitants kindly, that's for sure, but they didn't treat their white "subjects"  (transportees, child labour) any better, that's for double sure.

What's the old saying?

Clean up your own doorstep before you go critiscising your next door neighbour's.

Or words to that effect.