@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
Art what age would it be appropriate for children to listen to gansta rap? It would depend on the child and how much they were listening to. I doubt very much if kids under 7 or 8 would bother with it- even if they knew where to find it. It would be like a foreign language to them..
Up to about age 12 it could be a problem, but where and when are they going to be hearing it?
It would appear the_great_she_elephant that you may have an insulation from people of different cultures, classes and backgrounds.
Personally I wouldn't think that the acceptability any such violent content "would depend on the child and how much they were listening to". I believe there's none!
If you really don't know, hmmmm, OK if you really don't know about what kind of media and content kids under 7 or 8 can be exposed to then you would be in for a shock!
You ask "Up to about age 12 it could be a problem, but where and when are they going to be hearing it? " OK, they can hear this stuff on rage, radio, in the car with older brothers, cousins at school etc. etc.
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
Contrary to what you may believe Australian kids of that age do not spend long hours totally unsupervised. If their parents work they are usually in after school care and probably involved in holiday programs too. Social Services does not look kindly on parents who abandon their children for hours at a time.
Aha, you may have to get out a mingle a bit. There's a lot out there that many people have no idea of. There's a whole working class out there. And within that class there is a significant percentage of parents who like I said earlier, have their kids in the care of an older relative but still a minor. Also many parents have no idea about what their kids get up to.
Rrgardless of what Social Serv may or may not view kindly is not going to stop kids from being unsupervised. Many families lack a male role model as well.
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
One would also need to know just how pervasive extreme gangsta rap actually is in this country - what percentage of air time does it occupy? Has anyone ever done a survey on the musical choices and listening habits of 8 - 12 year olds? I suspect that in fact this rubbish actually accounts for a very small part of mainstream music and most kids would not be interested or dedicated enough to spend hours hunting it down and listening to it.
Well OK. You're talking about Australia right! A country that can't have anyone properly investigate the alarming amount of indigenous deaths in custody or the unnecessary additions of carcinogenic toxins in our food and water. I doubt very much that the effect of violent criminal genres of music is going to be investigated, especially when it is a money spinner for some.
This is where you may have to get out and about and possibly connect with people you wouldn't do normally. This excuse for music often comes to people before they would search for it.
Many young men don't have a role model. There is also a growing amount of disenfranchised, marginalized and disconnected youth. Sometimes like moths to a lamp they will gravitate to and embrace something as negative as this. Though not actually about music, the below article is quite interesting and relates to what we are talking about.
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Gang culture appeals to disenfranchised young people – but ‘social mixing’ offers a way out
May 22, 2019 8.04am ED
Over the past ten years, violence among young people involved in gangs has claimed hundreds of lives and dominated national debate in the UK. There have been many well-documented attempts to counter gang culture, ranging from early years intervention to zero tolerance policing.
But authorities have yet to fully consider social mixing – otherwise known as “bridging”. Bridging is an approach which helps people go out beyond the neighborhood where they live to create new, more diverse social networks in other areas. This might happen when they start training or volunteering, or get a part-time job.
To read more please click on the below link
https://theconversation.com/gang-culture-appeals-to-disenfranchised-young-people-but-social-mixing-o...
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@the_great_she_elephantwrote
4channel, how much practical research have you actually done into all this? Have you dedicated hours of your time to listening to and evaluating gangsta rap and counting the frequency of playing time , or is your knowledge mainly derived from articles posted online? And if so from where are these articles originating? You mentioned 'informed African Americans' but I would remind you that African American culture and experience is very different from ours and not really relevant when evaluating the listening preferences of Australian kids
Well now let's see. OK, I have done a bit of research as I have with other issues that I am interested in or concerned with. I have interacted with and have been involved with people who have been affected by exposure to this genre.
You say .... "African American culture and experience is very different from ours ". OK, well, there is this Americanization kind of thing going on. And when you say " ours " do you mean Caucasian Australian of a certain background etc., or do you mean the many different variants of culture within Australia?
Australia is not what it was in the 1970s. I think for the betterment of this country is its multicultural / ethnic diversity. Sadly for some of the the newer arrivals to this country, the ones who have worked very hard, done lower paid work etc., they have children who though no fault of their own may be more susceptible to the negative aspects of this violent musical genre.
