14-01-2015 09:59 AM - edited 14-01-2015 10:00 AM
For a few weeks this is a good place for all the Qld election stuff..
Both sides and even Clive
Labor will lose they have nothig and are a policy free zone
So post away.
on 02-02-2015 07:26 PM
@polksaladallie wrote:Already there is some in-fighting in the LNP in Queensland. A meeting to choose a new leader has been cancelled, and the contenders are seeking air time to push thieir cause and denigrate others.
A reflective Mr Seeney said there would be years of analysis of what had gone so wrong for the Newman Government.
But even as a leadership spat appears to be brewing within the party's ranks of long-term leaders, Mr Seeney thinks he has some idea of where the mistakes were made – and he is not looking at those still standing.
"Well, a lot of people, including me will reflect on that for a long time, but I think it is was something of an experiment to bring a leader from local government into the state government sphere," he said, referring to the "Newman experiment"
"I think that was very successful in winning the election initially but I think we underestimated the challenge of bringing not just the Premier, but all of his associated staff and senior advisors into a situation where they weren't familiar with the accepted norms and weren't familiar with the processes.
"It was a huge step to make, coming into a situation where all of those things were new and on reflection I think that we underestimated what a challenge that was.
"There is a whole culture around state government that those of us who serve our apprenticeship in state government, we all learn it. It is very difficult when you have a large group of people who come into that culture without understanding it.
"...It is not a matter of being ready for the challenge. There were a lot of very capable people.
"But there were a lot of very capable people that came into a situation they were not familiar with. And there is no way of explaining to somebody the parliamentary processes and the parliamentary systems and the accepted modes of behaviours and the accepted norms and the inter-relationships that exist.
"But when you bring a large group of people into a situation that they are not familiar with, I think it led us to do things in a way that people did not think was acceptable for a state government.
The claws are out.
on 02-02-2015 07:29 PM
on 02-02-2015 07:30 PM
@debra9275 wrote:It's currently looking as if Pauline Hanson may win a seat
Pauline Hanson now ahead by 365 votes in Lockyer. @LNPQLD no hope of minority govt if she wins. #qldvotes
Yay go Pauline!
on 02-02-2015 07:55 PM
on 02-02-2015 07:56 PM
on 02-02-2015 08:59 PM
@debra9275 wrote:It's currently looking as if Pauline Hanson may win a seat
Pauline Hanson now ahead by 365 votes in Lockyer. @LNPQLD no hope of minority govt if she wins. #qldvotes
Antony Green says not likely. She'll get roughly 30 grand for the effort though.
on 02-02-2015 09:05 PM
She's very quiet lol https://twitter.com/paulinehanson1
on 02-02-2015 09:08 PM
here's some more on that now
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-02/pauline-hanson-takes-lead-in-count-of-lockyer-seat/6064278
Antony Green doesn't expect her lead to hold as you said Gleee
on 02-02-2015 09:16 PM
on 03-02-2015 02:03 AM
. . . "A reflective Mr Seeney said there would be years of analysis of what had gone so wrong for the Newman Government.
But even as a leadership spat appears to be brewing within the party's ranks of long-term leaders, Mr Seeney thinks he has some idea of where the mistakes were made – and he is not looking at those still standing.
"Well, a lot of people, including me will reflect on that for a long time, but I think it is was something of an experiment to bring a leader from local government into the state government sphere," he said, referring to the "Newman experiment"" . . .
They really need to do years of analysis? Really?
Why can't the LNP understand that it is not that they failed to communicate or explain or justify their policies which is the problem . . . it is the very policies themselves which act as a poisonous and corrosive element, eroding their electoral support.
They are truly fools.
The LNP are not failing to communicate their policy messages at all , , , they communicate them all too well, and the electorate rejects them en masse as being unpalatable and unacceptable.
Do we expect the LNP to change and become sensitive to what the voters want?
We live in hopes, but we exist and we vote in a Reality.
LNP . . . listen up. Truly listen. But more than that; change your policies to ones which are more reflective of the needs of society as a whole and give up pursuing policies which favour the big end of town.
It's their choice. let's see if they are capable of genuine understanding and genuine listening and genuine response.
So far, they have chosen self-interest and maaates-interest and the electorate has become (understandably) disinterested in them.