Religion of Peace and Polygamy

[ufo_investigations]

Question:

Does Islam really allow a man to take up to four wives?

Summary Answer:

Yes, a Muslim man can marry as many as four women, and have sexual relations with an unspecified number of slaves as well.  Muhammad had eleven wives at one time.

The Quran:

Quran (4:3) - "Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess."  This verse clearly allows a man to have up to four wives (Allah conveniently granted Muhammad an exception... according to what Muhammad told his followers).  According to the Hadith, the "justice" spoken of merely refers to the dowry provided the bride, not the treatment accorded following the wedding.

Quran (4:129) - "Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire"  Underscores that a man is not able to treat multiple wives fairly.  He would therefore be unable to acquire more than one wife if this were a requirement - which it is not.  In fact, Muhammad was not able to treat his own wives fairly (see Additional Notes).

Quran (66:5) - "Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins"  A disobedient wife can be replaced.  A man can only have up to four wives, but he can rotate as many women as he pleases in and out of the lineup.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/017-polygamy.htm

I wonder what women in the 21st century think about this?

[yaryarde]

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@steppefjordwyfe10 wrote:

Yes, I may have seen it too.

Was it the one with the predatory narcisstic woman?  She was always on the look out for someone to help her?  Always ended up doing harm to the ones she was involved with, many times intentionally and sometimes unintentionally.  It was just how things went in her life, stagnant or down hill, one. I think it was a documentary.  I love those.

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Yes it was a documentary and until then I wasn't familiar with the word "polyamorous" - used to it being called other things.

[lealta]

It comes down to recognizing when it's time to take our medicine.

Since I'm not sick, there is no reason for me to take any medicine.

[village_person]

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@karliandjacko wrote:

No, it doesn't.  We are talking about polyamorous, as described by an Aussie actor talking about his own relationships.  It's none of anyone elses business and does not affect anyone but themselves.  If you want to let a total strangers relationship affect you go ahead but don't extrapolate your fears onto the rest of society.

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I have no problem with what takes place behind closed with one very important caveat: I don't want my taxes propping up the lifestyle of other people with the exception of basic services.

[polksaladallie]

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@4c4sale wrote:

Apart from cultural mandates, the polyamorous individuals I've known tended to be low in self-awareness and high in narcisssitic traits. They may be less likely to respect the boundaries others have chosen, and to possess a clumsy, predatory charm. The behavior may arise from troubled situtations in their family of origin, and while presented as a viable relationship alternative, may be a red flag suggesting a damaged individual best avoided.

Your results may vary, of course.

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They are only doing what is completely natural, as in the animal world, because they too are aminals.

It is buttoned up religions and governments which have decided to enact rules and their versions of moral codes in order to control societies.  It is our choice whether or not we follow any or all of those rules.

[ruloinfovoter]

Much prettier word indeed.

[4c4sale]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@4c4sale wrote:

Apart from cultural mandates, the polyamorous individuals I've known tended to be low in self-awareness and high in narcisssitic traits. They may be less likely to respect the boundaries others have chosen, and to possess a clumsy, predatory charm. The behavior may arise from troubled situtations in their family of origin, and while presented as a viable relationship alternative, may be a red flag suggesting a damaged individual best avoided.

Your results may vary, of course.

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They are only doing what is completely natural, as in the animal world, because they too are aminals.

It is buttoned up religions and governments which have decided to enact rules and their versions of moral codes in order to control societies.  It is our choice whether or not we follow any or all of those rules.

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Is it "completely natural?"

Is "completely natural" the catch-all, ill-defined standard by which we should live our lives?

[4c4sale]

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@lealta wrote:

It comes down to recognizing when it's time to take our medicine.

Since I'm not sick, there is no reason for me to take any medicine.

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The Rx awaits you when you're ready, and written in so familiar a hand!

[thegoblinswillgetu]

I find the fact that some use such large font- interesting and disturbing.

But those who practice Polygamy, no, that is none of my business.

I would have to be crazy to push my lifestyle onto anyone else or sit in judgement of someone

simply because they are different then me. 

No one has that right.

[4c4sale]

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@steppefjordwyfe10 wrote:

Yes, I may have seen it too.

Was it the one with the predatory narcisstic woman?  She was always on the look out for someone to help her?  Always ended up doing harm to the ones she was involved with, many times intentionally and sometimes unintentionally.  It was just how things went in her life, stagnant or down hill, one. I think it was a documentary.  I love those.

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You may also see these types playing *support* roles in philosphical, religious, educational or moral institutions. (Sometimes marginal in nature and in their standards of accreditation, if any exist.) This puts them in a vantage spot to prey on the vulnerable while seeming to serve, but such types always put their own desires first, and betray this in ways large and small.

[4c4sale]

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@thegoblinswillgetu wrote:

I find the fact that some use such large font- interesting and disturbing.

But those who practice Polygamy, no, that is none of my business.

I would have to be crazy to push my lifestyle onto anyone else or sit in judgement of someone

simply because they are different then me. 

No one has that right.

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You may wish to adjust how you see things. (None of the fonts appear larger to me.)

You don't judge others, and believe no one has the right to do so?

Is this correct?