Scott Morrison Really Needs To Learn Some Manners

[lyhargr_0]

Grabbing a woman's arm and making her shake his hand when she didnt want to do it, was NOT a good look, it's called assault   .... If he had done it to me, I would have had him charged with assault. He has NO right to do this to anyone

He also did to one of firies, he got up and walked out in disgust, cant say I blame him

He needs to learn to keep his hands to himself

[the_great_she_elephant]

And without the cars, fuel, fieldworkers, office staff etc how are they going to know where and how to distribute the money?

And if they distribute it all next week, what happens if/when another wave of bushfires sweeps the country next month?

[lionrose.7]

I understand there is admin costs BUT it does bug me that money I donated for People and Animals may all got to admin.

I should have just caught a Plane over and gone to towns and handed out money to people I think needed it.

Things are moving to slow

[davidc4430]

as i see it these organisations have been doing what they do how they do it for a very long time

no one has been complaining about the hows or whys of there way of doing business, well not like the last few days.

i would bet a weeks wage on the fact they havent introduced new fees and charges in the past 4 weeks in order to steal any of the donated money.

when you donate you dont get to tell the charity how to spend your money.

if you dont like how they spend your money dont donate.

personally i am more worried about the millions being collected by unscrupios collectors in the name of 'helping the victims' that just dissapears.

someone rattles a tin or knocks on the door and most people just trust them.

charity organisations are big business these days, they have bords and huge office buildings ect ect

i dont give to charities. my choice.

[lyhargr_0]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

And without the cars, fuel, fieldworkers, office staff etc how are they going to know where and how to distribute the money?

Plenty of other organisations seem to be able to do this, with spending squillions of $$$$   ....

And if they distribute it all next week, what happens if/when another wave of bushfires sweeps the country next month?

Fat chance of them distributing it all next week, next month, next yr

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[lyhargr_0]

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@lyhargr_0 wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

And without the cars, fuel, fieldworkers, office staff etc how are they going to know where and how to distribute the money?

Plenty of other organisations seem to be able to do this, with spending squillions of $$$$   ....

And if they distribute it all next week, what happens if/when another wave of bushfires sweeps the country next month?

Fat chance of them distributing it all next week, next month, next yr

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www.gerf.org.au/     Perhaps they could give the Red X a few pointers, in how NOT to rip people off

[chameleon54]

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@lyhargr_0 wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@domino-710 wrote:

With all due respect Dave.

The headline was ' Admin Costs '.

$11.5 mill.

Nowhere did it state - Overall Costs.

I do understand - vehicles - fuel - people - aid.

But this was a clear - headline - Admin Costs.

You do argue ' words ' - and give awards. lol 

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Administration: the arrangements and tasks needed to control the operation of a plan or organisation.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/administration

Wouldn't that include hiring and driving cars, buying fuel, field workers visiting claimants' and the office staff at Red Cross HQ  processing all the paperwork etc'.

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Who cares if it does    ...... I CARE that they are withholding millions of dollars that were donated to help the victims of these dreadful fires

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Sounds a lot like our Public Service. NDIS is a classic example. So much bureaucracy that only around half of the budget actually makes it to the people who need the money. The useless paper shufflers have taken over the world and made it almost impossible to get anything done.

Donate to Blazeaid......Managed by volunteers, staffed by volunteers, practical rural people who know how to get stuff on the ground and done before the city bureaucrats in their shiny charity offices have even left for work in their shiny cars paid for with your donations. 

[the_great_she_elephant]

Chameleon wrote: Donate to Blazeaid......Managed by volunteers, staffed by volunteers, practical rural people who know how to get stuff on the ground and done before the city bureaucrats in their shiny charity offices have even left for work in their shiny cars paid for with your donations.

https://farmers.org.au/news/blazeaid-restores-hope-to-farmers/ 

BlazeAid currently has 14 base camps set up in bushfire-affected areas across Australia and are looking to have 40-50 base camps set up over the next few months.

The camps will cost $5,000 a week to run with budget constraints a possible concern for the future.  

So does rthat $5,000  count as adminisration costs and is it paid out of the volunteers own pockets or from donations?

[lyhargr_0]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Chameleon wrote: Donate to Blazeaid......Managed by volunteers, staffed by volunteers, practical rural people who know how to get stuff on the ground and done before the city bureaucrats in their shiny charity offices have even left for work in their shiny cars paid for with your donations.

https://farmers.org.au/news/blazeaid-restores-hope-to-farmers/ 

BlazeAid currently has 14 base camps set up in bushfire-affected areas across Australia and are looking to have 40-50 base camps set up over the next few months.

The camps will cost $5,000 a week to run with budget constraints a possible concern for the future.  

So does rthat $5,000  count as adminisration costs and is it paid out of the volunteers own pockets or from donations?

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Give 'em a call 'n ask 'em   ............... easy peasy

[icyfroth]

The reality of why your money can’t go to bushfire victims immediately.

The three charities under scrutiny over the past 24 hours are largely distributing funds on two fronts. The first being trained volunteers and employees on the ground at emergency hubs, offering shelter, counselling, direct logistical support and so on to those affected.

The second — and this is the source of much of the recent frustration — is relief grant programs on offer to those who’ve had homes destroyed. Successful applicants will receive a lump sum payment to help them start the recovery process. In the Red Cross’ case, for example, that payment is $10,000.

However, the organisation believes that it’s important to maintain a presence in fire-affected communities after the world’s attention inevitably turns elsewhere.

“We have committed to staying in these communities, working with them once their needs become clearer; especially as the bushfires are continuing to burn and the full extent of the needs is yet to emerge,” it said in a statement. “We will not move on. We know from our long experience in disasters that recovery takes time and effort. We are committed to working with communities to shape how these funds can support them.”

There’s also the question of admin costs. While Vinnies does not use money donated during a disaster appeal to cover support costs, the Red Cross has declared a maximum of one cent in every dollar raised will be used for this purpose.

“This ensures we can pay grants promptly, track donations, collect and analyse information, have systems in place to deploy our emergency teams, and meet legal, privacy and protection obligations,” it said.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/the-reality-of-why-your-money-cant-go-to-bushfire-victims-i...

[domino-710]

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@icyfroth wrote:

The reality of why your money can’t go to bushfire victims immediately.

The three charities under scrutiny over the past 24 hours are largely distributing funds on two fronts. The first being trained volunteers and employees on the ground at emergency hubs, offering shelter, counselling, direct logistical support and so on to those affected.

The second — and this is the source of much of the recent frustration — is relief grant programs on offer to those who’ve had homes destroyed. Successful applicants will receive a lump sum payment to help them start the recovery process. In the Red Cross’ case, for example, that payment is $10,000.

However, the organisation believes that it’s important to maintain a presence in fire-affected communities after the world’s attention inevitably turns elsewhere.

“We have committed to staying in these communities, working with them once their needs become clearer; especially as the bushfires are continuing to burn and the full extent of the needs is yet to emerge,” it said in a statement. “We will not move on. We know from our long experience in disasters that recovery takes time and effort. We are committed to working with communities to shape how these funds can support them.”

There’s also the question of admin costs. While Vinnies does not use money donated during a disaster appeal to cover support costs, the Red Cross has declared a maximum of one cent in every dollar raised will be used for this purpose.

“This ensures we can pay grants promptly, track donations, collect and analyse information, have systems in place to deploy our emergency teams, and meet legal, privacy and protection obligations,” it said

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My maths ability could be better.

But - since last July - Fire Disaster - donations = 115 million.

(This is not their only source of ' income '.)

.01% of 115 million s $11,500 (I think).