Brilliant.
Whether people support halal certification or not, there are lots of people with lots of concerns so its time to investigate it all.
http://www.3aw.com.au/news/bernardis-inquiry-into-food-certification-schemes-20150514-gh1c32.html
Here are the reasons i am against halal certification and the questions i want answered.
1. Why are the fees paid by businesses for halal certification kept secret? Why do the businesss have to sign non disclosure agreements?
2. Why are there 20+ privately run halal certification companies in Australia, all charging whatever amounts they want, when Indonesia only has 1 Government run halal certifier? If foods need to be halal certified, then let the Government run it and let the money go back into the whole Australian community.
3. For meat to be halal, the animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way, throat slit while animal is conscious by a Muslim. Yes, there are some abattoirs that use a reverse stun but, from what i have researched, there are at least 15 abattoirs in Australia that slaughter animals using no stun. It is barbaric. This video is very graphic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQJ-FZo1cA
4. Australia is a predominantly Christian country, so why are we being forced to eat meat that has been prayed over to a "god" that we dont even recognise?
5. If halal certification is supposed to help Muslims recognise what they can and cant eat, then why do so many companies that pay for the certification stamp choose not to display it on their products?
6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.
7. We are told halal certification monies goes towards to building of more mosques and Islamic schools. We know that there are quite a few mosques where the hatred of Australia is preached. As for Islamic schools, the same schools where a principal has said that girls are forbidden to run in races because it will cause them to lose their virginity. Do we need schools like that here?
8. In Canada halal certification money was found to be used to fund organisations linked to extremist organisations. I have no doubt that would be happening here as well.
9. Halal is a part of sharia law and we DO NOT want any part of Sharia law in Australia.
So, what would i like to see? Id like halal certification to be a Government run organisation. Id like every business who pays for halal certification to have to display the stamp on their products. I want all Australian abattoirs to stun before killing. That would be a nice start
@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:
@azureline** wrote:
@daydream**believer wrote:just curious grizz, do you slaughter pigs at your work?
Pigs are usually killed at a specific abattoir......they need different equipment, different yards, different everything, they stress very easily. I doubt there is one that does both.
poppycock^^^^^^^
Pigs are usually killed on a different chain...same abbs different chain..... see the link below
http://www.aussieabattoirs.com/facts/directory
The point I think is that all the meat is chilled with the same recirculating air in the same cool rooms separated only by plastic and cardboard.
An ink stamp changes meat from halal to non halal.... and vice versa........... I have blessed and unblessed thousands
upon thousands of cartons
What?
Surely not
After all, it clearly states on the Islamic Co ordinating council website that "Pig meat will not be slaughtered, processed or stored at the abattoir."
And that brings me back to question 6 in my OP
6. Why are abattoirs paying a certification fee and then packing all the meat in one truck and delivering it to butchers and supermarkets who then put it all in the one fridge and display it all in the one display fridge. Once pork products are shelved, stored or transported with other meats, the other meats immediately become non halal anyway. So Aussie Muslims cant eat it anyway.
Have a look next time you are at Woolies or Coles or a butcher etc. Woolies get their meat from an halal certified abattoirs, yet my Woolies had its roast porks right next to the beef and the pork chops right next to the lamb chops.
My butcher told me that they get their meat from a halal certified abattoirs (because they cant find one that isnt), but the minute all the meat goes on the one truck for delivery and then gets displayed in the same display cases, its non halal.
Just to add, because many of you seem to not understand or chose to be ignorant of it, I am not anti Muslim. I am anti halal certification the way it is currently operated.
I also dont like the women wearing head coverings. I believe they should have to remove those coverings in certain places (banks, airports etc), pretty much any place that also asks for the removal of helmets, balaclavas, hoodies etc.
So call me a bigot a racist, whatever you want, but i know I am not and i do not believe any of the questions i have put in the OP are not questions that other Australians should not also be asking
Look janeababe, i can make my writing pretty colurs as well.
Does it make what is written more important?
As for you calling "shenanigans", well i dont really care what you call it, cause i still call halal certification a SCAM (ohh thats big, bolded and coloured so it must be really important)
