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martinw-48
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Is 7am to 8am too early?
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Martin, how long ago did you purchase your cottage?

 

We bought in 2015.

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@domino-710 wrote:

I agree with Lindal.

 

This should be for anyone over 60 - with simply proof of age.

 

Self funded - no cards - but certainly could have the same disabilities as a senior on the pension.


Seniors cards aren't tested on income or assets.  If people haven't got one it's because they either haven't bothered to apply or they're working too many hours (more than 20 hours in some states, more than 35 hours in others), so most 'vulnerable' people would have one.

 

In most states you only have to be 60 but in WA you have to be 61 and in Qld you have to be 65 (but can get it from 60 to 64 if you work less than 35 hours a week AND have a health card card or certain other cards).

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martinw-48
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Freddie, October 1998
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@brerrabbit585 wrote:

@domino-710 wrote:

I agree with Lindal.

 

This should be for anyone over 60 - with simply proof of age.

 

Self funded - no cards - but certainly could have the same disabilities as a senior on the pension.


Seniors cards aren't tested on income or assets.  If people haven't got one it's because they either haven't bothered to apply or they're working too many hours (more than 20 hours in some states, more than 35 hours in others), so most 'vulnerable' people would have one.

 

In most states you only have to be 60 but in WA you have to be 61 and in Qld you have to be 65 (but can get it from 60 to 64 if you work less than 35 hours a week AND have a health card card or certain other cards).


Brer - self funded retirees - do not work any hours.

 

But - senior card or not - Woolwoorths simply says - Gov issued  - these people are not collecting the pension - so therefore have no issued card.

 

My point was - they still should be able to shop - between 7 & 8 - due to their age - and abilities/disabilities.

 

Simples.

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If self-funded retirees aren't working any hours then they can get a state seniors card when they're 60 (in most states). They are NOT means tested. It doesn't matter how much they own or what their income is, they can still get a card. They may not get govt concessions but they can still get a seniors card.

https://www.apia.com.au/apia-good-life/finance-career/senior-concessions-discounts.html
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It shouldn't be ' mandatory ' to get a seniors card.

 

They are simply of qualifying age - with proof of same.

 

I'm quite sure when friends go down in the morning - they will not be turned away - due to a lack of a card.

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@brerrabbit585 wrote:

Yes, I think they're trying to make the best out of a bad situation and it can't be easy for them (the supermarkets). They probably don't know all the ins and outs of what cards people have. They've had this thrust upon them and they probably know that a lot of ordinary people are trying to bypass the shortages by ordering online and they wouldn't quite know what to do about it. If they stopped for an hour during the day (or even half an hour) to only serve older and disabled people they'd inconvenience a lot of ordinary people who are only able to shop at certain times.


Actually by customers shopping online the supermakets could easily limit the amount of items customers can buy.  There were often buying limits for items on special in the early days of online grocery shopping.  If the limit was 4 chicken soups and you wanted 6 you couldn't order it.  The order would be adjusted back to 4 and that was it.  That would certainly limit greedy or panic buyers easily.

 

For the elderly who don't use computers for ordering groceries, they might be able to get store shopping hours at a more reasonable time and for a longer period.

 

The only flaw in this idea as it is doubtful Woolies has the staff and vans to cope with a huge increase in online shoppers either for delivery or the mountain of angry customers waiting for click and collect.  I'll bet their website would probably crash as well.

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@lyhargr_0 wrote:

@lyndal1838 wrote:

@icyfroth wrote:

Most senior ppl I know are up early, because they just can't sleep longer, and like to get their business done by lunchtime, as energy levels flag by the afternoon.

 

Here in the Urban areas, pensioners get a great deal of government aid, such as domestic and social help in the form of carers, and community transport in the form of cabcharge and community buses to take them shopping or to  appointments.

 

I understand it's probably different in regional areas, but I'm sure there would be some level of access to community services.


Come off it Icy......I am not in the back of nowhere.....I can see Sydney Airport and the city skyline from my front door.

 

From experience it is often harder to access community services in the city/suburbs than it is in country areas and it is certainly quite expensive.

 

My father accessed community carers....at 92 he was allowed 3 hours a week over 5 weekdays so 36 minutes a day.  It was barely enough to heat his meals on wheels and supervise his middle of the day medications.

More often than not he was dozing when they arrived so they just sat there and watched him for the allotted time.



Doesn't happen that way where I live Lyndal. You get 3 free visits from the community nurse then it's $12 per visit thereafter plus they are only avail for 3 days a week, so they are really pushed for time.  They are usually in and out as fast as they can be and off to the next patient. The meals on wheels person barely has time to drop the meal off they go  ..... rush, rush, rush

 

bty if you are so close to the city, why is the public transport in your area so bad?


We are also in different states which makes it hard to compare Government services.  My father only required home help, not medical help.

On one occasion when he cut his arm quite badly his GP arranged for community nurses to come in regularly to dress the wound...not sure how many visits but no charge at all.

 

The public transport along General Homes Drive is excellent but it is about 800 metres from my home....fine when you are young and healthy but no so good when you are older with mobility problems.

 

When I first moved here we had a local private bus service which was excellent....it took us to the local railway station and was the preferred method of travel to the city anyway.....much quicker than the public bus service which wandered all over the place.

We knew all the drivers and they knew our children.  It was very reassuring to know our kids were in safe hands on the school bus.

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@brerrabbit585 wrote:
If self-funded retirees aren't working any hours then they can get a state seniors card when they're 60 (in most states). They are NOT means tested. It doesn't matter how much they own or what their income is, they can still get a card. They may not get govt concessions but they can still get a seniors card.

https://www.apia.com.au/apia-good-life/finance-career/senior-concessions-discounts.html

Brer you are talking about State Seniors cards.  The critria for shopping early is having a FEDERAL Government Health care card or Seniors card.

I have had a NSW State card for several years but do not qualify for any Federal Government cards.  The main benefit I get is a 5% discount on my shopping at Woolworths.

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I have just rung my local.

 

On advice - they are allowing anyone - with an aged pension card - no Seniors card  -necessary -  but it will be accepted - and they will not turn away - obviously elderly peeps - with no cards at all.

 

All good.

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