Should global warming be a hush topic when there are severe bushfires?

I don't think so, what do others think?

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With no disrespect to those who have lost what is dear to them -

 

I believe that in this situation it has been caused by 'back burning' carried out by people that don't know what they are doing.

Further to this I believe that there are those that are trying to 'cover up' their incompetences here.

 

There are also those (Govts and Corporations) who are and have been for years (and ramping it up more and more every week) messing big time with our weather.

Weather Manipulation.

GeoEngineering

Chemtrailing

HAARP

 

....do your own research.....look 'up' at YOUR sky, before 6am in the morning, noon and about 11pm at night.....if you are able go out and have a look between 2am and 5am too.

Do this every day for a month.

After a month you will 'see' what is happening.

 

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He probably used that term to address the lowest common denominator in the community.  I don't know.

In answer to your other questions you will need to ask the Greens.

I am not a member of the Greens.  I just personally know many Green supporters and members who go out and risk their lives the same as non-Greens.

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@crystal-gems wrote:

He probably used that term to address the lowest common denominator in the community.  I don't know.

In answer to your other questions you will need to ask the Greens.

I am not a member of the Greens.  I just personally know many Green supporters and members who go out and risk their lives the same as non-Greens.


Sorry, it wasn't really directed at you  😄

Yep, same here. I'm not in the greens but do know some who are volunteer fire fighters. I find it amusing that people assume greens are some alien species that would not join the firies. Fire fighters don't wear a badge to display their political affiliations.

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Hi Freakie.   I think the media is as confused as the community on the difference between backburning and hazard control

I have never heard of the Greens wanting to ban backburning....quite the contrary.  They want to control and stop a fire .

The text on those so called posted cartoons are way off the mark.  They are so dumb.

 

This is a cut and paste of the difference.....

 

"controlled burns are planned during times that the area is not burning in a bushfirre, back burning is done to stop a fire that is already in progress. Back burning is a way of reducing the amount of flammable material during a fire by starting small fires along a man made or natural firebreak in front of a main fire front. It is called back burning because the small fires are designed to 'burn back towards the main fire front'. The basic reason for back burning is so that there is little material that can burn when the main fire reaches the burnt area. The firebreaks that may be used to start a line of fires along could be a river, road or a bulldozed clearing etc"

 

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@donnashuggy wrote:

I don't think so, what do others think?


I think you should let the people bury their loved one and let the people that have lost their homes at least find a bed for the night before you start making political statements... 

 

discussing if man made climate change has made a difference should be able to be discussed any time. 

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Which political statement would that be catmad?

 

 

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

On the 6th of February 1851, 5 million hectares, were burnt during a bush fire in Victoria.   Anyone heard of a larger bush fire in Australia.?


In 1851 ...How did they measure the 5 million hectares??? From the air???? by satellite?????... large chain and two horses???

 

or

 

wait for it... ANOTHER THOUGHT..........they took a guess?

 

Well I guess the Kooris in the 1000's of years they inhabitated Australia before european records were kept

 

.... that they got a bigger barby going than your quoted 1851 12 million acre fire GUESS.... That's my guess


http://www.csiro.au/Organisation-Structure/Divisions/Ecosystem-Sciences/BushfireInAustralia.aspx

Since European settlement, the total amount of fire in the landscape has declined.

The bushland areas and particularly those around Sydney, New South Wales, have thickened and accumulated more fuel.

As a result, the infrequent fires that now occur under extreme weather burn much more intensely and have a significant impact on

the built environment.

He says the pictorial and written records make it clear that the landscape Europeans discovered was not a natural one, but instead it was a landscape that had been made by Aboriginal people systematically burning forest in order to create grassland, and then using fire to maintain and refresh that grassland.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2012/05/28/3512963.htm


 

 

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I used to live on a bush block in the Dandenong ranges, I would pick up the litter and try to burn it when it was safe, during the winter.  But it was too damp even on "dry" days.  What often happened that one weekend it was still not burning and the next one we had serious trouble containing it.  The problem doing controlled burning on large scale is that if it is burning too low temperatures it will not do much good; it will burn off bit of grass, some bark but not really reduce the fire risk or be hot enough for the seeds to crack and sprout.  And when it does burn properly, it is difficult to contain if the wind picks up and/or the temperatures rise more than expected.

 

The temperatures created by the recent fires are far exceeding those needed for germination of some bush plants; I have visited Kinglake/Marysville area  some 3 years after the Black Saturday fires, and many of the hills were still totally black = dead.

 

In the past we had no equipment to stop the fire, so it would burn out large tracts of the land.  Now we are finding unable to stop the fires with many people on the ground, and planes and helicopters.  It does not matter how they start, what is important is that they get out of hand faster,  earlier in the season than before, and getting more frequent.  It used to be once in so many years we had bad (really bad) fire somewhere in Australia, now we have the catastrophic fires pretty much every year and in many places. 

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I think you should let the people bury their loved one and let the people that have lost their homes at least find a bed for the night before you start making political statements... 

 

Catmad, in all fairness.....the OP did not introduce/mention politics into this thread......it was the poster with those 'cartoons'.

Perhaps you meant to direct your comment to her.

 

I agree with you that climate change should be discussed at any time..

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@crystal-gems wrote:

I think you should let the people bury their loved one and let the people that have lost their homes at least find a bed for the night before you start making political statements... 

 

Catmad, in all fairness.....the OP did not introduce/mention politics into this thread......it was the poster with those 'cartoons'.

Perhaps you meant to direct your comment to her.

 

I agree with you that climate change should be discussed at any time..


It was Adam Bandt that introduced politics to this discussion... I would assume that the thread was possibly started because of the uproar that was caused by that man attributing man made climate change and these bushfires to the PM. 

 

In no way am I attributing the OP to the statement that was made by the Greens second in command... Even the Greens leader distanced herself from that mans comments. 

 

The one good thing that the Greens leader said was that no one event can be attributed to man made global warming. yes... we may be having an influence on the weather but to make a political statement during a disaster is very upsetting to the people that are going through it. 

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