on 19-10-2013 02:52 PM
on 30-10-2013 01:08 AM
Your ref> here is my source , a reliable one also.:
Australian Bureau of Statistics....1301.0 - Year Book Australia....24.33 CAUSES OF BUSHFIRES IN VICTORIA
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Well monnie, am guessing (seeing that you failed to state which YEAR this Oz Year Bk is from.....typical of you to provide info in a non-transparent way!!!...) that you are referring to information from 2004.
....................OUT OF DATE , sorry!.....please provide up to date information that is relevant. Cheers
ref. chemtrailing I posted earlier that chemtrails are not imaginery....before this I have posted many web sites on chemtrails and HAARP/DARPA..........
You are such a knowledgeable chap/chapette - who am I to argue with you?!!....I mean you even refute what I see with my own eyes every day in my skies where I am.
You are such an all knowing but rude 'expert' I suggest you write a book on it yourself and then we can perhaps can discuss this.
30-10-2013 01:13 AM - edited 30-10-2013 01:16 AM
So monnie, I ask again .....who/what caused the majority of the 90+ NSW bush fires?
specifics would be great.
Ref your *pretty (out of date 2004 or earlier donut chart) you still refusing to answer following? " what constitutes an "Agricultural Escape"? and....when power poles/lines are deemed the cause of bush fires do these 'accidents' fit into the category of 'lightning' or 'Deliberate'?.....but if you say fit into 'public utilities' then this chart is not truthful, is it?"
on 30-10-2013 11:47 AM
P7, direct cause and effect are not variable with respect to time, thus with a few variables (like population density) you will find that bushfire ignition causes today will not differ drastically from those of the ABS 2004 research/figures.
"Bushfires can originate from both human activity and natural causes with lightning the predominant natural source, accounting for about half of all ignitions in Australia. Fires of human origin currently account for the remainder and are classified as accidental or deliberate. Fires lit deliberately can be the result of arson or designed to achieve a beneficial outcome but experience sudden adverse weather conditions which results in their uncontrollable spread. Unfortunately deliberate and accidentally lit fires are more prevalent near populated areas."
"what constitutes an "Agricultural Escape" I have no idea P7, so enlighten me.
Power lines problems causing fires can not be classed as lightning P7, Look up the cause of lightning, it has not changed since 2004, (or ever) and thus is not out of date.
P7: "ref. chemtrailing I posted earlier that chemtrails are not imaginery....before this I have posted many web sites on chemtrails and HAARP/DARPA."
The trails are standard contrails, if you want to spray people withchemicals you would not do it openly (over your head ???) and at 30,000 feet for all to see.
Post some reliable references, of the same calibre as the ABS, CSIRO, BOM, I will take them from any period even 2004.
Why not discuss the basic physics/science/aeronautical factors involved? Lets start with spray ejection hardware required, and how it might be utilised at high altitude.
HAARP, again some reliable scientific sites P7, as you appear to have no grasp of ionospheric communications
P7: "You are such a knowledgeable chap/chapette - who am I to argue with you?!!....I mean you even refute what I see with my own eyes every day in my skies where I am."
With regard to this debate I do have some knowledge P7 and can discuss it directly, you on the other hand are welcome to state your case using reliable/credible, non nutter, references, post some, better still, produce some photographs here of "what you see with your own eyes every day in my skies where I am."
P7, do you take precautions so that the evil chemicals in your skies (above your head) every day will not affect you? I have read that these chemicals produce paranoid fears/beliefs in organised conspiracies. We have a member here
who thinks (imagines) like yourself, so I found him some suitable protective clothing which I now recommend for yourself.
P7 Homework:
Reliable/credible/scientific references
Photographs of "them" above your head
Definition of lightning
Explanation (yours?) of "Agricultural Escape"
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on 30-10-2013 01:42 PM
Two Alarmists in an argument........just ridiculous.
The content of this argument.........complete rubbish............typical Alarmists.........
on 30-10-2013 01:50 PM
well half ridiculous, half informed and accurate. you arguing with PTS , now thats funny.