on 19-10-2013 02:52 PM
on 22-10-2013 05:19 PM
on 22-10-2013 05:27 PM
@*ibis wrote:the rise in the average global temperature since 1880 is less than one degree
personally i cant tell the difference between 25 and 25.6 degrees so im not building a climate change panic room just yet
I reckon a few of the Alarmists on this forum will be building some........
on 22-10-2013 05:30 PM
P7: "ref. monman - I have never stated that the Chemtrails are laid during the day where I live- you have....."
Actually P7 you have written: "......I see chemtrailing, above my head every week- what I see is not contrails, what I am seeing and witnessing is chemtrailing.
Yes, you did not mention you saw them during the day, so how did you see the evil chemtrails P7 (where you do not live) if they are above your head, and possibly at night?, and why would the bad chemtrailers do it so openly above your head? Why are they doing it at all,. and so badly?
"I am not a conspiracy theorist." You certainly give that impression.
"I am scientifically informed." Based upon your comments so far, you are not in the slightest
"I know the difference between contrails and chemtrails and the effects of ice crystals etc." There are no such thing as your chemtrails, and what exactly does the "effects of ice crystals" mean?
P7 "Lightning can be artificially made and when it is there need not be thunder" Nonsense , any form of visual electrical discharge produces an acoustic shock/sound wave, whether it be a spark plug being tested out of an engine, a "leaky" high voltage insulator on a power line, even a static discharge from a person after walking on a synthetic carpet, all produce an audio signature from about 25dB to 120 dB for a thunder clap, which can have an audio range of around 15 Km.
P7: "I have simply suggested that with all the Weather Manipulation going on around our globe and proven to be happening in Australia that this is perhaps the cause of the majority of bush fires in NSW."
" proven to be happening in Australia" prove it then P7. Localised cloud seeding attempts are the nearest, and they have proved ineffectual.
I get the impression P7 that you hardly understand science at all, so apropos HAARP, how do you explain that experimental ionospheric communications via HF induced plasma clouds would be able to alter the weather, create earthquakes etc, when natural solar wind sourced ionisation/plasma indicated by the aurora borealis/ aurora australis represent power levels many orders of magnitude greater than a few MW of transmitted HAARP power?
Just some basic physics/science will suffice, and not quotes from conspiracy sites/nuts.
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on 22-10-2013 07:15 PM
on 22-10-2013 07:37 PM
SWF: "I'm still waiting for Jack Ruby to get a mention here."
Chuckle.
I think P7 is related to the much missed (by myself)
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on 22-10-2013 08:06 PM
on 22-10-2013 08:14 PM
Why hush?
Not like Adam blamed the bushfires on Abortion laws being changed like Danny Nalliah did when he linked the Victorian bushfires to Abrortion?
Or when Danny Nalliah linked the Queensland floods to Rudd talking against Isreal.
Nalliah declared on his website "...at once I was reminded of Kevin Rudd speaking against Israel in Israel on 14th December 2010. It is very interesting that Kevin Rudd is from QLD. Is God trying to get our attention? Yes, I believe so."
That is Danny Nalliah of the Rise Up Party (Keep Australia, Australian)...
We link tragedies to everything and parties use it as a tool
-Terrorist plots and acts
-Asylum boat sinkings
on 22-10-2013 08:18 PM
on 23-10-2013 02:05 AM
just so you don't feel left out monman Dear:
I copied and pasted this just fer U
WA Government defends prescribed burning
IN the wake of the destructive Margaret River bushfire, the head of Western Australia's environment department has defended prescribed burning, saying worse tragedies would occur if it was not carried out.
Keiran McNamara, the director-general of the state's Department of Environment and Conservation (DEC), has also defended an officer involved in approving the burn which got out of control, after it was revealed he had been criticised by the WA coroner over three bushfire fatalities in 2007.
Hundreds of bushfire evacuees were waiting today to return to their homes in the Margaret River region after cooler weather enabled firefighters to contain the blaze that razed 30 houses.
Authorities hoped to have roads open and most evacuees back to their homes by tonight.
The fire spread out of control on Wednesday from a prescribed burn started by DEC in the Leeuwin-Naturaliste National Park on September 6 and reignited last Monday.
Mr McNamara told reporters today that he expressed his apologies and sympathies to the Margaret River community and particularly those families who had lost homes.
He said prescribed burning was inherently dangerous but it would continue to be an essential part of protecting the community from bushfires.
"In the absence of prescribed burning, unfortunately we will see worse tragedies than what we've experienced this week."
Mr McNamara said unseasonal wet weather meant the burn could not be completed in the time expected and it had to be relit a number of times.
"Once a burn has been initiated, it is necessary to complete that burn to make it safe."
There was every chance the fire might have spread without any reignitions, he said.
Mr McNamara rejected claims that the WA government had put pressure on DEC to ramp up prescribed burning in the wake of the Perth Hills bushfire in February that destroyed 71 homes.
"I reject the claim that we're taking too many risks. We assess every burn very carefully."
Premier Colin Barnett has said there will be an inquiry into the blaze.
But he added it was not a case of laying blame because it was an accident.
Mr McNamara confirmed that last year he had reinstated Brad Commins, now the district manager who oversees the Margaret River region, after he voluntarily stepped aside when WA Coroner Alastair Hope criticised him over three bushfire deaths in 2007.
Mr Hope found Mr Commins and two other DEC officers failed to consider key weather information when they approved the reopening of a road when a bushfire was burning in the Boorabbin National Park in WA's Goldfields region in December 2007.
"This constituted extreme incompetence," Mr Hope found.
Truck drivers Robert Taylor, Trevor Murley and Lewis Bedford died when they drove into the fire when the road through the national park was reopened.
Mr McNamara said on Saturday that an independent investigation had later found that Mr Commins was not careless in exercising his roles at Boorabbin.
"I have full confidence in Mr Commins as a competent and professional officer," he said.
Mr Commins was one of a number of senior staff who approved the Margaret River burn, Mr McNamara said.
DEC has confirmed that 30 houses, nine holiday chalets and four sheds were lost in the fire, while 16 houses and a shop were damaged.
A significant heritage loss was Wallcliffe House, an 1865 riverside manor being restored by Woodside Petroleum and National Australia Bank chairman Michael Chaney.
DEC issued a smoke alert on Saturday for southern parts of Perth after southerly winds pushed smoke north from the Margaret River fire.
on 23-10-2013 05:34 AM
See en en en en
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/22/world/asia/australia-bushfire-climate-change/
According to David Bowman, professor of forest ecology at the University of Tasmania, who has studied bushfires for more than 30 years, bushfire behavior is showing signs of change.
"The problem with Australia is that the records are pretty shallow, which makes it really difficult to talk conclusively about any of the fire activity.
But when you piece everything together there's some very convincing evidence.
Aggressive fires
"Even the firefighters are reporting really unusual behavior," said Bowman, adding that firefighters are fighting bigger and more aggressive fires.
"Normally at night -- and this is borne out by firefighters in the United States -- the fire will quell as the temperature cools.
But firefighters are saying that because of the heat, bushfires are burning just as fiercely at night. It's all getting pretty worrying."
Bowman says that deforestation fires alone -- the fires that have been used to destroy forests since the industrial revolution -- account for about one-fifth of all carbon dioxide committed to the atmosphere.
"That's a very significant component in global warming," he said.
One thing that is being noticed by scientists is that black carbon from forest fires is landing on ice sheets and accelerating ice melt.
The particles from forest fires, he said, actually inhibit rainfall contributing to regional drying and warming, which creates a weather cycle conducive to fires.
The problem for scientists, he added, was in connecting the dots with these patterns.
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