Should other countries intervene in Iraq?

[nero_bolt]

Should other countries intervene in Iraq? and the other countries inclues Australia 

Its turning into a real mess and blood bath... over run by extremist and terrorists 

Iraq: 'extreme, brutal' Isis fuels humanitarian crisis

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/15/iraq-extreme-brutal-isis-fuels-humanitarian-crisis-says...

Twitter forced to act after Iraq executions live tweeted

The Sydney Morning Herald reports graphic images of the executions of Iraqi soldiers were live tweeted by members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant as they happened late last week.

The photos showed scores of soldiers rounded up into trucks before being forced face-down in the dirt with their hands tied behind their backs before being executed by automatic weapons.

On early Saturday ISIL tweeted it had executed 1700 Shiite soldiers, but the figure has not been confirmed by human rights groups.

Read more at http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/06/15/13/38/twitter-forced-to-act-after-iraq-executions-live-t...

Read more at http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/06/15/13/38/twitter-forced-to-act-after-iraq-executions-live-t...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/06/15/04/25/iran-offers-help-if-us-targets-iraq-rebels

[azureline**]

Seriously? these are people, just like everywhere else in the world, families who have the same values we do, the generalisation is appalling.

[k0llectable5]

I think we have to look at the original "excuse" for the invasion of Iraq.  The fact is there were no WMD's. Saddam was not harbouring and supporting Al Queada. As for financially assisting the Palestinian families of suicide bombers, who knows? Considering Palestine in particular the Gaza strip is considered the largest open air prison in the world, and suicide bombing is an act of sheer desperation from a people that have lost nearly all if not all of their basic human rights something has to be done to send a message to the west that the occupation of this nation is wrong and needs to be acknowledged as such. (Not that I condone suicide bombing, but I feel as though I can kinda understand why they do it)    

Do people honestly believe that America really cares about the so called human rights violations in Iraq? There have been close to if not more than 1 million  deaths since the beginning of this "war on terror" Can anyone explain to me what this even means? By the sound of things terrorism has been allowed to reign since this invasion began.

I personally dont agree with the west and our democratization processes.  I'd like one of our leaders to explain to us the real reason for this war....

[tall_bearded01]

I don’t see how any of what you have written has anything to do with what is happen now in Iraq.

I do not propose the proposition that more powerful countries have a right to interfere in the internal affairs of another.  For instance, I was then, and still are now opposed to the initial decision to send troops to get rid of Saddam Hussain. 

However there are exception.  For instance should we simply have stood back whilst Hitler rampaged through Europe and industrialised genocide. 

Therefore, if the troops go in, they should only do so, if our support was requested by the Iraqi goverment.

[tall_bearded01]

I am talking about a specific group of religious radicals.  Not a race, or a culture or the religion itself.

So what will happen to the Iraqi populace if these people take over?  Take a good long hard look as to what is currently happening in the tribal areas of Pakistan, where women dancing in public is a crime punishable by death and hat law is enforced, or what happened when the Taliban ruled Afghanistan.

[kilroy_is_here]

Spoiler

saddam was removed becuse he was no longer of use against Iran  as the us had lost control of him he was supplying weapons and funds to quite a few terrorist organisations and had become anti west.

there is quite a few referances in yasi arafafts biography about sadams role in the middle eastand how iraq was used as as a staging point for funding and weapon movements and supply

[boris1gary]

absolutely not.

Major-general John Cantwell – who was director of strategic operations in Iraq – has been interviewed on the ABC this morning. The retired military man is not mincing words. Cantwell says it would be "absolute folly for Australia to go back into Iraq."

[polksaladallie]

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@bella_again wrote:

Well if we all ignore human rights and let evil reign in the world we should leave them alone.  Interesting that it took all of five minutes for terror to again rain on innocent people.  Where are all the people saying that the we shouldn't have intervened now?  I think we left too early.

I guess we have to decide what we stand for, the right of human beings across the planet or are we so secure in our own little realm that we would let people die without a thought. I bet if it was happening to us, if it was our sons, daughters and family being executed we would want help and quickly.

Can't imagine what those people must be going through, what a terrible way to live and exist.

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They were doing very well before the west decided to kill hundreds of thousands of the populace, destroy their schools, hospitals and factories.  Gotta keep the oil flowing.

[tall_bearded01]

As far as the region is concerned Saddam was no better or worse than other of a number tin pot dictators in the region. 

You are correct when you say the US lost control of him, and that he was providing arms and funds to terrorist organisations, but then so was Gaddafi as well as Syria and a number of others. But though the US sometimes intervened with the odd airstrike, the only place they put boots on the ground was Iraq.

So why the difference.  Iraq has significant oil deposits which because of UN sanctions imposed on Saddam,  they couldn’t sell. This was driving up the price of oil.  The solution, Get rid of Saddam and the opricr goes down.

[boris1gary]

It is worthwhile noting that under Saddam you could drink wine, doff the hijab, enjoy the best free health care in the Middle East, get a pensioned job in the bureaucracy, see Shaw and Stoppard plays and, if you were a woman, go to university. He ran a secular government and his Vice President was a Christian. And now this is what we have put in his place, after shooting three of his lawyers, and hanging, torturing, machine gunning ‒ and once inadvertently decapitating ‒ twenty-five of his family members.

[icyfroth]

The West has already intervened in the Middle East and largely contributed to the insurgence there by financing weapons and training to rebel forces.

What wer'e seeing is the result that Obama needs as an excuse to go in with the big guns and control the region under "humanitarian grounds".