Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[cherry*135]

"Why is that some posters just can't accept the FACT that other posters just don't like this type of clothing? Weird"

As a response to that I could post:

Why is it that some posters just can't accept the FACT that other posters just don't have any problems with Muslim women wearing burkas in Australia.

This is a discussion for those for, against, or don't care. I have not seen one poster tell another poster to change their view. In some discussions there could be more No's than Yes's so that may make the Yes's feel pressured about their view.

Which doesn't mean posts can't be queried or asked for more info. Posters should be able to reply to that without getting all defensive.

[channys_mum]

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@am*3 wrote:
"Why is that some posters just can't accept the FACT that other posters just don't like this type of clothing? Weird"

As a response to that I could post:

Why is it that some posters just can't accept the FACT that other posters just don't have any problems with Muslim women wearing burkas in Australia.

This is a discussion for those for, against, or don't care. I have not seen one poster tell another poster to change their view. In some discussions there could be more No's than Yes's so that may make the Yes's feel pressured about their view.

Which doesn't mean posts can't be queried or asked for more info. Posters should be able to reply to that without getting all defensive.

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All of that 

[village_person]

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@daydream**believer wrote:

This is an example of why i find them intimidating.

Its my opinion.

Im sure there will be those who will disagree with my opinion but disagree all you like, it wont change my opinion

At the kindy the other day i arrived at the same time as a woman wearing a niqab.

I opened the door and held it open for her. Then, as we both got to the sign in book at the same time, i said "You can go first" and smiled. She just stood there.

She said something but it was muffled by the niqab. She looked at me but i have no idea what expression she had. So we both stood there at the sign in book.

In the end i shrugged my shoulders and signed the book before her.

Later i heard her talking to the kindy teacher so i know she understood and could speak English.

IMO, facial expressions are a big part of communicating. If i cant see the face i find the situation imtimidating

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You assume it was a female. It might have been Tony Abbott taking a break from his personal bodyguards. Who knows what it was. It might be best described as a slow moving object of human form swathed in black (I presume it was black) material.

[Anonymous]

probably was tony abbott 

am3 - can you now see why

daydreams feelings were justified?

[iapetus_rocks]

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@azureline** wrote:

I don't think anyone doesn't get that some people don't like the "garb"

I don't understand why they don't like it but I don't insist they should.

I don't like women's bellies hanging over their pants,  pants so low we can see  everything that should be inside them, etc.

I just avoid looking at them.

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I don't understand why they don't like it but I don't insist they should.

I don't like it because this form of dress is a prescription by men, for women, telling them what they should wear.

Do you know the reasons why Muslim men "encourage" their womenfolk to dress this way?

[iapetus_rocks]

I'll give you hint. Their reasons relate to an  inability of self-control; a certain lack of the civilised graces, shall we say?

A certain weakness on their part which they freely admit, without apparent shame.

[lightningdance]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

I don't think anyone doesn't get that some people don't like the "garb"

I don't understand why they don't like it but I don't insist they should.

I don't like women's bellies hanging over their pants,  pants so low we can see  everything that should be inside them, etc.

I just avoid looking at them.

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I don't understand why they don't like it but I don't insist they should.

I don't like it because this form of dress is a prescription by men, for women, telling them what they should wear.

Do you know the reasons why Muslim men "encourage" their womenfolk to dress this way?

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I think we know why men insist women cover themselves up. Remember the "meat" shiek comment? and he went on to say women who don't cover themselves up are like, asking for it,  or words to that effect.

So it seems that the men have no self control and that's the woman's fault. Under sharia if a womam is raped it's her fault and she can be killed (stoned to death).

All this is pretty confronting for western women and the burqua echoes all of that.

The burqua is cultural not religious, FGM is also cultural not religious and both practices are to control and subjugate women. There is no place for this type of thinking in a modern 21st century world.

[azureline**]

Yes I do know,have had it explained by women who wear various head coverings, rather believe them than someone who doesn't wear it.

[azureline**]

Interesting article I came across re the burqa ban.

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2012/05/22/3507845.htm

[karliandjacko]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

I don't think anyone doesn't get that some people don't like the "garb"

I don't understand why they don't like it but I don't insist they should.

I don't like women's bellies hanging over their pants,  pants so low we can see  everything that should be inside them, etc.

I just avoid looking at them.

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I don't understand why they don't like it but I don't insist they should.

I don't like it because this form of dress is a prescription by men, for women, telling them what they should wear.

Do you know the reasons why Muslim men "encourage" their womenfolk to dress this way?

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I don't particularly like the burqa either.  It's up to the women who wear them to drop them though.  Oppression by us as a means to battle oppression by the men in their culture won't solve anything it just adds to their isolation within Australia.