22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
on 03-10-2014 08:51 AM
@polksaladallie wrote:Well, it has happened. Muslim women wearing face coverings have been barred from the public galleries of parliament. They will have to sit behind glass, like criminals.
Its the same section they make school kids sit
on 03-10-2014 08:54 AM
@channys_mum wrote:Can those who wish to wear motorbike helmets with the visors down sit in there too.
of course not.
on 03-10-2014 08:55 AM
@daydream**believer wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:Well, it has happened. Muslim women wearing face coverings have been barred from the public galleries of parliament. They will have to sit behind glass, like criminals.
Its the same section they make school kids sit
That's some security risk... let's just stick em in with the kids.
on 03-10-2014 09:01 AM
on 03-10-2014 09:33 AM
yes bigot is more appropriate for this discussion. Did I see somewhere that the majority of Australians want the burqa or more precisely the niqab banned - because I must have missed that poll, again
Burqa ban a political excuse for persecution
Even before the embarrassing backdown there were problems. For starters, it's not a burqa. A burqa is that particularly Afghan garment, usually blue, with the mesh covering the eyes. The one you've seen on the news (or perhaps on Jacqui Lambie's Facebook page), but almost certainly never in Australia. We're talking about the niqab, common in the Gulf and worn by – my guess – a couple of hundred Australians. I have to guess, because we don't even bother with such basic research before we consider banning such things.
It says everything that we can't even get the name right; that merely to be understood in the argument, you must get it wrong
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Of itself, it's not a big deal, but it symbolises the calibre of the public conversation. It's as if we're demanding a pernicious, industrial-scale ignorance. As if we're proud of it. We'll tell these women what their clothing signifies. We'll tell them why they wear it. We'll even rename it for them if we want. These women will be deconstructed and reconstructed at our will, and without their involvement.
These are the terms of the debate and the most influential voices will be the most ignorant.
on 03-10-2014 10:25 AM
OMG terrorists in Australia, how do we get rid of them, I know lets gets stuck into the women of the family and tell them how to dress.
Because we dont like their religion or their men telling them how to dress we want to do it !!!!!!!!
Because Australia is a free country !!!
Tongue in cheek
on 03-10-2014 11:53 AM
on 03-10-2014 12:23 PM
Estimated 100-200 women who wear burqa's in the whole of Australia. No-one has bothered to find out how many exactly there could be.. which is strange if they are considered a 'threat'.
on 03-10-2014 12:27 PM
Service personnel wear a uniform for specific purposes, they are used to rules................whole different issue. Terrorist threat"against them" is a good reason not to.
03-10-2014 12:33 PM - edited 03-10-2014 12:33 PM
This is a bigger problem in city centres/Malls re safety & intimidation than the women wearing burqa's.
Retail workers quotse:
..say they are increasingly the target of verbal abuse and physical threats from criminals peddling drugs outside their stores.
They say drug dealers are brazenly plying their trade in open sight, only to scatter when police arrive at the scene.
...the woman said she was regularly the target of abuse, with people affected by drugs often wandering aimlessly into the store with shopping the furthest thing from their minds.
‘‘They come in ranting and raving, and they come in packs of five or six,’’ she said.
‘‘I’ve had them screaming at me or just going on with high talk, just nonsense – they are off their trees.
‘‘One of them made punching motions at me last week.’’
Plus groups of youths that hang around in those areas.