Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[para-slights]

Why isolate Islam as the only religion to exhibit male dominance - the Bible reflects some pretty harsh references for women to be totally submissive to man and I'm yet to see any equality regarding women priests

[jimmy*part4]

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@para-slights wrote:

Why isolate Islam as the only religion to exhibit male dominance - the Bible reflects some pretty harsh references for women to be totally submissive to man and I'm yet to see any equality regarding women priests

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The biblle was written 1000's of years ago and no one I've seen or heard holds females to those standards.

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[iapetus_rocks]

Well, the topic under discussion is the burqa. This is a dress form worn only by the followers of islam and by no one else, so that is where I am focussing my comments.

I freely admit that many other religions exist which marginalise women and treat them as second-class. Christianity does this and so does Judaism and also there exist many tribal societies, which do the same.

Just because that is a pattern followed by religions and (most?) other cultures, does not excuse any of them from equal condemnation in my opinion.

It's just that here, right now, we're talking about the burqa. And that is an Islamic dress form.

[jimmy*part4]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Slightly different to being told to do so .....

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Not really. Once I was invited to company Christmas party by a long term girlfriend and she INSISTED I wear a suit and tie even though it wasn't required.

It was important to her...so I did.

[para-slights]

Thats the Roman Catholic branch - always ahead of their time and much more liberal (and good on them) and it's still in the scriptures. If anyone wants to wear an article of clothing to show respect for their God then let them - be it the Islamic Burqa or Japanese monks with baskets on their heads.

[iapetus_rocks]

Maybe tomorrow I'll go out and get a fitting for a collander to wear on my head, insisting that the wearing of it is an expression of my religious freedom.

There is no freedom in the organised religions. There is only  religously inspired prescription and religiously inspired proscription.

Despite what the Koran says, there is compulsion in religion. Don't listen so much to what they (the religious of this world) say, but look more at what they do.

[aurcspares]

australian police are there for public protection and do a good job of it, not public abuse

[aurcspares]

 i truely beileve in freedom of choice, but in the case of the burqa and the fact that it can be used to hide your identy and has been used to do so to inflict harm on innocent people( news reports of suicide bombers wearing burqas) it should be banned in australia. with all the drama in the news and peoples heads being cut off why should we risk the saftey of our proud aussie defence force personel by allowing some man hidden behind a burqa to approach and possibly kill the guys that protect this great country.

[jimmy*part4]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Maybe tomorrow I'll go out and get a fitting for a collander to wear on my head,

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Don't do it! Collanders might be Holy, but.....

You'll end up having a memory like a sieve.

You'll have to strain to remember anything.

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