Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[cherry*135]

I live in NSW, so only know the law applicable to my state.

Banks have had signs up saying motorcyclists must remove helmets before entry, that may not be enforceable by law though.

Haven't seen any signs outside banks saying people wearing balaclava's won't be permitted entry LOL.

[azureline**]

Banks can refuse entry to anyone they choose. Shopping centres can refuse entry to footware-less persons too.

[Anonymous]

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@azureline** wrote:

I know in banks and service stations helmets must be removed but that is the premises policy................

due to the large number of robberies and armed hold ups in the past.

Clearly not comparable.

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so do you think if a person who was

wearing a religious face covering was

refused entry -  they would have a case

to take to an anti-discrimination authority?

[cherry*135]

What grounds would a bank have for refusing entry to a person wearing a burqa? Especially one who is a customer of that bank.

Have any banks in Australia been robbed by a person wearng a burqa?

Robbers intending to rob a bank, wearing full motorcycle helmets, balaclava's or pantyhose over their head, force entry into banks. 

They don't get checked out at the door first.

[Anonymous]

ok so i assume you are saying they

would have a case.

some banks do have security

guards. 

[polksaladallie]

In cases of domestic abuse, the Burqa doesn’t just isolate the woman, it also covers up evidence of the abuse.

I had a relative who was born in the century before last who used to wear long sleeves and scarves even in summer.  Should she have been made to wear different clothing?  Abused women in every culture take different measures to cover up spousal abuse.

It gives the abuser the freedom to brutalize his partner without worrying that anyone will even notice.

That's funny, I knew a police officer who did exactly the same.

[ufo_investigations]

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@xxpelxx wrote:

I think the whole point is for migrants to obey by the law of the land regardless of their religious habits and believes.

It has nothing to do with persecution.

Before I came to Australia, my father told me firmly; "You are going to a strange land, you will have to learn the language, the customs and the laws and abide by them. Don't expect a whole country to change to accomodate your ways. You will have to change if you want to fit in and make it your new home."

If I would migrate to Saudi Arabia (for instance) and use my international Drivers Liscence to drive a car, I would be arrested and thrown in jail, because it is illegal for a woman to drive a car in that country. This is only one comparison, there are hundreds more of harsh laws that have to be obeyed by locals and strangers alike. No leniencies for ignorant tourists either.

Nobody forces people to remain in Australia if they don't like our laws.

Erica

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I agree 100% on this 😉

If we went to Saudi Arabia and we got caught with pork in our possession that is an immediate death sentence, to them that is worst than having drugs on you. You have to abide the laws of the country you enter.

[Anonymous]

what happens when somone suffers from

maskophobia?

(i almost laughed and feel really bad)

A bus driver refusing entry to a woman in a burqa is a clear case of discrimination, the Race Relations Commissioner says.

NZ Bus said both drivers involved in the incidents had been sent on counselling programmes and had been found to be suffering from ''maskophobia''.

''Both drivers ... claim it's not religious ... but they genuinely have a phobia of people wearing masks, hence why we have not dismissed them,'' general manager Jon Calder said yesterday.

Prime Minister John Key said cultural beliefs should be respected and women should not be discriminated against because they wear a burqa.

''I think where practical, and on both sides, people should respect others' culture and cultural beliefs. There is practical reasons why sometimes a burqa won't be applicable; banks for example for security reasons from time to time they will enforce that.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5231950/All-in-on-burqa-debate-as-woman-kicked-off-bus

[village_person]

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@karliandjacko wrote:

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@boris1gary wrote:

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

I think the govt handled this issue very poorly.

All that was needed was to impose a ban on the wearing of all forms of face-covering attire by anyone entering any govt building.

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what like beards?

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Is there some confusion surrounding the bearded Mick Malthouse? Is there some confusion surrounding the bearded (at times) TV personality Charlie Pickering?

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I'm confused, who is Mick Malthouse?  

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Sorry Big K. Mick Malthouse is the very acerbic and very animated coach of the Carlton AFL team. He sometimes has facial hair.

http://www.sportal.com.au/afl/news/interviewing-mick-malthouse-afl-journos-have-their-say/15l7u14gxo...

[the_great_she_elephant]

If we went to Saudi Arabia and we got caught with pork in our possession that is an immediate death sentence, to them that is worst than having drugs on you.

May we presume that you have either lived in Saudi Arabia or have enough frst hand knowledge of their laws to be certain of this - and that you haven't just pulled it off an anti Muslim website ?

You have to abide the laws of the country you enter.

Which laws are Islamic women breaking by wearing a burqa or niqab? If they are not breaking any laws how is this statement relevant to the topic?

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