State by State, Australia vs Elsewhere, in the age of COVID-19 and beyond

This thread is for the specific purpose of checking on milestone information (quotations and videos rather than table-form/spreadsheet/database information that fit better into k1ooo's thread), and responses by representatives from our government, CHOs, etc.

 

 

 

It's official: Australia has passed the 70% double dose vaccination rate.

 

 

Australia's double-dose vaccination rate has passed 70 per cent of all adults aged 16 and over

It is a key milestone in the national reopening plan.

More than 33 million vaccine doses have been distributed nationwide, and the first-dose rate nationally has reached 85.5 percent.

New South Wales and the ACT have already passed the 80 percent vaccination milestone, and Victoria and Tasmania are expected to reach 70 percent double-dosed within two days.❞

 

A tremendous achievement, but of course there is still some patchiness. We'll have to see some good efforts to correct misinformation, to provide solid health information, and to take the vaccine to the people who are not able or not willing to access it easily by themselves.

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90% effective is not comfort if exposed to infectious densities the 10th time or does it mean infection exposure is inevitable and 90% will become agreeably mildly infected ( with no significant loss  in during recovery to Govt services & commerce ) but 10% will likely require professional medical care ?

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Border rules relaxed for Japan and South Korea tourists, international students and visa holders currently overseas

 

Fully vaccinated international students and eligible visa holders from around the world, as well as tourists from Japan and South Korea will be welcomed back to Australia from next week.

 

Prime Minister Scott Morrison said eligible visa holders would be able to come to Australia from the beginning of December without needing to apply for a travel exemption.

 

"The return of skilled workers and students to Australia is a major milestone in our pathway back, it's a major milestone about what Australians have been able to achieve and enable us to do," he said.

 

As well as student and skilled worker visas, those on refugee and working holiday visas are also eligible.

 

Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews said welcoming travellers and temporary visa holders back would further help the tourism industry recover.

 

"These changes are crucially important to Australia as we go through our reopening phase," she said.

 

"We are working on a figure of 200,000, it may well be more than that but we will be actively looking to bring as many people into Australia as soon as we possibly can."

 

Migration rates fell sharply when the border was closed to everyone except Australian citizens and permanent residents in March last year in response to the emerging pandemic.

 

Now, almost two years later, many industries are reporting a shortage of workers, with projects including big public infrastructure works at risk.

 

The government expects around 200,000 temporary visa holders will be able to re-enter Australia from December 1, but it is not yet clear how many new spots will be made available in each category.

 

Currently, there are 79,600 places in the skilled visa category, 13,750 in the humanitarian program, and no cap on the number of student visas that can be granted.


International students back at uni

 

Vaccinated international students with a valid visa will no longer need an exemption to travel to Australia, but they will be subject to the quarantine arrangements of the state/territory they are travelling to.

 

In jurisdictions with quarantine-free travel, international students will not count towards passenger caps.

 

Finance Minister Simon Birmingham said international students would be back at universities early next year.

 

"International students should expect to be attending classes and be at universities for the commencement next year," he said.

 

"We would be encouraging them to make their plans, and to be back here to give that lift to universities and to the many other parts of our economy that have benefited so much from international students over the years."

 

Senator Birmingham said the expansion would be undertaken in line with the plans of the states and territories.

 

"As with returning international Australian citizens and permanent residents, you've got Victoria and New South Wales who have been playing a leading role in reopening their international borders," he said.

 

"Other states have spelt out different criteria for when they will provide that type of movement, and that will be a matter for those states to continue to work through those issues, and we'll respect that.

 

"Obviously we want them to get the very high vaccination rates of New South Wales and Victoria so that they hopefully can follow suit and have international students back for commencement at their unis next year."

 

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg told Sky News more migration would accelerate the economic recovery from the pandemic.

 

"Both skilled workers and international students play an essential role in our economy," he said.

 

"International students are worth some $40 billion to our economy.

 

"We know that there are workforce shortages out there and skilled workers can play a key part in meeting some of those shortages."

 

 

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Have you lost your damn marbles? 
Can you hear yourself? I mean…. Really? 

Talk about rantings of a mad person…….. (and I’m not suggesting that you’re ‘mad’, but your comments are not sane!)

 

*sigh*

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Am just asking the question : outside of the lab what does 90% effective mean to a double vaccinated Josie Citizen actually living life and possibly crossing paths multiple times with the polluted air from the infected that is communicable and what does the 10% mean ? 

How does this rating relate to the average unvaccinated person and their propensity to acquire covid-19 under the same exposure conditions 

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Okay, here is MY answer to your questions - and it is my interpretation of the information I have heard so I am not supplying any actual figures or exact data.

 

Does Josie live and work and visit and shop and exercise in areas where the rate is truly 90%? Or is the rate for the State/Territory in which she lives (etc) 90% but her local region is far lower.

 

If a true 90%, and Josie herself is double vaccinated then while it is possible for her to catch covid from an infected passerby, it is far less likely. Similarly, if she does catch it, the chance that she will become very unwell or indeed infect others is vastly reduced.

 

If, however the actual rate is far less than 90%, her chances of catching the virus are a little higher (she might want to wear a mask when in crowded places.) Her chances of becoming very unwell or infecting others however is still much reduced.

 

So you see, if we were all Josie (or Joe) the virus would have a pretty tough time of it.  Isn't it a shame some aren't?

 

 

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@rogespeed wrote:

Am just asking the question : outside of the lab what does 90% effective mean to a double vaccinated Josie Citizen actually living life and possibly crossing paths multiple times with the polluted air from the infected that is communicable and what does the 10% mean ? 

How does this rating relate to the average unvaccinated person and their propensity to acquire covid-19 under the same exposure conditions 


 

ok… so I’ll say it again. 

A double vaccinated person has up to 90% protection AGAINST catching covid and a 10% chance   Of catching covid.  
Reinfection is rare up to one year…. Which means that annual boosters are likely in our future. 

 

An unvaccinated  person has up to 100% chance of catching covid.  

With regards to keeping safe outside in the covid infected environment, keep wearing your masks, maintain good personal hygiene and regular hand washing. But this is NOT new news, this is now 2yrs old! 

Just what is it that you just can’t grasp your head around???????? 

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So clinically how much is " far less likely " and " chances of .. " in context of normal living and published efficacy ratings

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It probably depends on how eager you are to end up in ICU with a ventilator down your throat.

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My 10 cents worth.

 

A  double vaccinated person is 90% protected against severe symptoms of Covid.

 

Going back - the vaccines were touted as - immunity - nope - prevention - nope - protection - yes.

 

No vaccine - is 100% surety. - not a one.

 

Those of us -  double vaccinated - will - if having contracted Covid - will suffer less severe consequences than we would being - unvaccinated.

 

We may even live.

 

Rogues - you know where your bum  is - now think of your head - just an up - it's up top. 

 

 

 

 

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