Suburban trees

[martinw-48]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-02/tree-loss-increasing-heat-in-suburbs-as-thermal-inequity-hits...

I hate driving around some suburbs and seeing no trees.
I don't understand the way so many people lose it over leaves, they're natural.
Sure they're annoying but it's more annoying to be walking in full Sun and having to get back in a vehicle that's been sitting in full Sun.
Yes, they do fall down and do damage and unfortunately kill the odd individual but they add so much to the streetscape and the natural environment

[eol-products]

They say the odds of being killed by a tree are 1 in 10 000 000. 

[imastawka]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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@imastawka wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@imastawka wrote:

She wouldn't have bought it anyway.

New owners - young ones.     Won't be told.

Fruit trees are still overhanging the house.

They also overhang my house, but I have them chopped and thrown back over the fence.

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Bad neighbour! 

Anything hanging over your fence is yours to deal with. You can reap the fruit, it's yours, or you can chop it back. 

Or you can antagonise your neighbours by throwing it back over the fence.

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Overhanging branches

Property owners are responsible for branches that overhang a neighbour’s fence or roots that grow onto neighbouring property. If these cause damage or affect the neighbour’s enjoyment of their property, the neighbour can take the property owner to court. If branches from your neighbour’s trees hang over your side of the fence, you can cut off the overhanging branches and place them on the neighbour's side of the fence. Discuss this with your neighbour first – they may be happy to do it themselves. If this is not practical, you can ask the neighbour to get a professional to lop the branches for you.

https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find-legal-answers/disputes-with-neighbours

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A lot of us don't live in Victoria.

That's the joy of Australia - 25 million people, 9 legal systems, 8 education systems, 8 health systems...

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Yeah, but I do and that's the salient point in answer to icy's dig.

[go-tazz]

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@eol-products wrote:

They say the odds of being killed by a tree are 1 in 10 000 000. 

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If it's a Gumtree then those odds are a lot lower as they say a Gum tree will drop it's branches sooner or latter

and that's why they call them widow makers.

There are gum tree forest in our area and there are enough fallen branches that people can get from certain

areas to keep the entire region in firewood and a lot more is sent elsewhere.

I used to walk through one area and in that half hour walk there was many times I heard the groan and then

crack as another branch came down.

Presently with the lack of rain here there could be more trees coming down as it has been windy of late but

the trees are drying out and splitting and that doubles the danger.

The golf course here in the last two year has lost a fair number of trees and they were all Gum trees with one

section losing five in one hit due to a bank caving in as it dried up completely due to the creek losing all of it's

water.

We used to have a Gum next to a flat in Portland and I used to trim it and eventually a heavy branch started

leaning on our roof and one had destroyed a veranda area next door and a few months before we moved out

they cut the whole thing down as a heavy branch took out the fence so it was finally deemed dangerous.

[joz*garage]

The variety Gumtree at my mother's was self pruning, after a branch fell and threatened my life, i had to end it's 

[davewil1964]

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@go-tazz wrote:

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@eol-products wrote:

They say the odds of being killed by a tree are 1 in 10 000 000. 

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If it's a Gumtree then those odds are a lot lower as they say a Gum tree will drop it's branches sooner or latter

and that's why they call them widow makers.

There are gum tree forest in our area and there are enough fallen branches that people can get from certain

areas to keep the entire region in firewood and a lot more is sent elsewhere.

I used to walk through one area and in that half hour walk there was many times I heard the groan and then

crack as another branch came down.

Presently with the lack of rain here there could be more trees coming down as it has been windy of late but

the trees are drying out and splitting and that doubles the danger.

The golf course here in the last two year has lost a fair number of trees and they were all Gum trees with one

section losing five in one hit due to a bank caving in as it dried up completely due to the creek losing all of it's

water.

We used to have a Gum next to a flat in Portland and I used to trim it and eventually a heavy branch started

leaning on our roof and one had destroyed a veranda area next door and a few months before we moved out

they cut the whole thing down as a heavy branch took out the fence so it was finally deemed dangerous.

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I am confused as to why eucalypts would be considered appropriate in built up areas. Eucalypts drop bark (and limbs), not leaves, so they don't provide sunlight in the (shrinking) winter. Whereas deciduous trees provide shade in the hot months and let the sun through in the cold months. Pertinent if they are planted on the north of the property.

[martinw-48]

Yeah, lets eliminate every native tree in suburbia so we can have a little winter sunlight.
They're just useless and annoying thise native trees.
Then we can eliminate all the native animals and insects because they're useless and annoying.
Them Australia could be a whole nation of just people cows and sheep.
Maybe some dogs and cats and we can all complain about the leaves every autumn that'd be so wonderful, wouldn't it

[eol-products]

It's very rare to die from a falling tree and most people know not to stand under one in a storm. I worked on a large property covered in native trees and in 9 years never had a close call. I tried to look up some stats and could only find some for the US which says around 30 people per year die.

[go-tazz]

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@eol-products wrote:

It's very rare to die from a falling tree and most people know not to stand under one in a storm. I worked on a large property covered in native trees and in 9 years never had a close call. I tried to look up some stats and could only find some for the US which says around 30 people per year die.

Only Californla have a high number of Gum trees and they are the Tassie Gum which is easier to grow in a

moist climate so don't really break down like the mainland trees do due to the drier conditions here.

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There were 5 people that have died due to cars being crushed by trees or their branches last year in Victoria

alone so not really that rare.

Gum trees also shed their bark and leaves which adds to the fuel load for fires.

Borers are also a problem when a Gum tree starts to suffer in hot dry or drought conditions and ten trees were

cut down here last year due to borers which then became dangerous when they dried out and the trees

started to died.