15-09-2014 04:54 PM - edited 15-09-2014 04:56 PM
Do you agree......???
JACQUI Lambie wants those in Australia who support sharia law to “pack up their bags and get out of here”.
The Palmer United Party Senator is also calling for them to be kicked off government benefits and not be allowed to vote in this country.
The outspoken Tasmanian, whose recent comments about the threat of a Chinese communist invasion caused a stir, this morning turned her sights on sharia law supporters.
“Anybody that supports Sharia law in Australia should not have the right to vote, should not be given government handouts and should probably pack up their bags and get out of here,” she told reporters in Hobart.
“Anybody supporting or calling for sharia law in Australia can get out. Simple as that.”
Earlier on radio 3AW Senator Lambie praised the Coalition for raising the country’s terror alert level to high — a move she said should have probably happened months ago.
But she warned she was more worried about veterans being “pushed back into the war zone” without adequate help when they returned, while “supporters of sharia law are allowed access to government benefits”.
“We are giving government benefits to those under sharia law … and I simply believe that those supporters who support sharia law should not have the right to vote with their allegiance to a foreign power.”
Senator Lambie said sharia law was “an underlying problem” in Australia.
“Unless we put our foot down on it now it’s only going to become bigger and more dangerous well into the future.”
The former veteran has previously called for a Royal Commission into the Defence Force and the Department of Veterans Affairs.
on 16-09-2014 12:34 PM
can you show me where Muslim mosques preach this please?
on 16-09-2014 12:41 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:Sharia Law is a moral code that does exactly what the Christian Bible does - it explains how to live you life.
Lucky for us you haven't taken the most obscure passages out of your Bible and followed some of those rule or you would be in prison right now.
ok i am curious - what are those passages?
i wouldn't have a clue where to even start looking
but - the only offence that could land you in prison that
i can think of would be disturbing the peace - using
Jesus' example of turning over tables in the temple -
he did get crucified for that didnt he
i cant think of anything that Jesus would teach that could
make you commit crime ??? just going by bible stories from
many yrs ago.
Well as it is on topic, wasn't it David that went forth and started beheading the Philistines on the strength of the word of the Lord?
There are plenty of passages easily searched if you need more.
isnt that the jewish bible?
we are discussing current beliefs and
you were making comparisons between the koran and
the christian bible but you're quoting jewish bible.
now - i know that there are probably people who dont
think there is a difference but i'm sure christians and jews
will disagree with you
on 16-09-2014 12:48 PM
But as I noted way up top somewhere, in THIS country no cleric has ever requested a change to our federal laws to take on extremes of Sharia Law.
nah, that is not what you said - you said:
No Islamic group in this country is or has ever called for the government to chage it's law to Sharia laws.
which i showed to be incorrect
in one of my earlier posts.
on 16-09-2014 12:52 PM
The comparison to Christianity is entirely appropriate for this discussion as it provides contect to the topic.
If we are banning the following of Sharia principles because some people take them to the extreme, then shouldn't we be applying the same thought and debate to Christian principles because some take them to the extreme?
No because modern Christianity no longer adheres those extreme priniciples. Hasn't done so for centuries. Islam on the other hand is still stuck in the dark ages.
There's no comparison.
on 16-09-2014 12:55 PM
@azureline** wrote:can you show me where Muslim mosques preach this please?
If you don't know what you are commenting on, have no knoweledge of the subject being discussed...seriously I am not here to educate you.
May I suggest you do the legwork and THEN make an educated comment.
on 16-09-2014 12:56 PM
I think you will find that most Churches still read the Bible and quote from the old testament................. we have a Gospel reading every time we attend Mass. The sermon is usually from the Bible..................
on 16-09-2014 12:58 PM
@lightningdance wrote:
@azureline** wrote:can you show me where Muslim mosques preach this please?
If you don't know what you are commenting on, have no knoweledge of the subject being discussed...seriously
I am not here to educate you.
May I suggest you do the legwork and THEN make an educated comment.
May I suggest the same rules apply to you then?
on 16-09-2014 12:59 PM
Man ‘marries off daughter, 12’ in Islamic ceremony: bride believed sharia law ‘override’
A CHILD bride allegedly married off at 12 was told sharia law “overrides” Australian law, court documents revealed.
In a case that has brought awareness of secret child brides in Australia, the girl’s father and the 26-year-old man she “wed” were charged in February over numerous child sex offences.
Documents that formed part of a successful apprehended violence order application by police at the time against the girl’s “husband” state that the young girl “believed or had been informed that sharia law overrides the Australian law”.
on 16-09-2014 01:02 PM
Muslim group wants sharia law in Australia
The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils wants Muslims to be able to marry, divorce and conduct financial transactions under the principles of sharia law.
In a submission to the Federal Parliament's Committee on Multicultural Affairs, the Federation has asked for the change.
It argues that all Australians would benefit if Islamic laws were adopted as mainstream legislation.
That is not a view shared by many other contributors to the usually low-profile committee.
It has received hundreds of submissions on the topic.
Ikebal Patel, president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, agrees the very word sharia could invoke notions of a fierce, unjust, male-dominated legal code.
"Short of trying to really find or use another word, really I would like to suggest that what the Muslim community at least in Australia has to do is to try and explain that there's no aspect of sharia that is being tried to be introduced here," he said.
However, Mr Patel believes everyone would benefit if sharia law were utilised in a pluralistic society such as Australia.
"Under the global financial crisis that we had the established market, the sharemarket sector, the products that are there suffered very badly," he said.
"Whereas the sharia-compliant investment funds did tremendously well and that's been identified by the financial community around the world."
Even popular belief that sharia marriage laws are oppressive towards women are wrong, Mr Patel asserts.
Rather sharia guarantees women's rights that are not recognised in mainstream Australian courts, he said.
But author Ida Lichter, who has written on the lives of Muslim women in both the West and predominantly Islamic countries, disagrees.
"The members of the Iranian and Kurdish Women's Rights Organisation in Britain have drawn attention to these oppressive laws that they escaped by migrating to the West, and they've said that women are much better under legislation based on universal human rights," she said.
more here http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-17/muslim-group-wants-sharia-law-in-australia/2717096
on 16-09-2014 01:02 PM
Fortunately, since it has now been resolved, the child no longer believes that lie.