on 17-04-2020 11:39 AM
on 19-04-2020 08:10 PM
19-04-2020 08:15 PM - edited 19-04-2020 08:16 PM
on 19-04-2020 08:56 PM
I would not post it if it was not my Opinion
on 19-04-2020 09:22 PM
@lionrose.7 wrote:I would not post it if it was not my Opinion
Well of course you wouldn't ..........
on 19-04-2020 09:50 PM
@lyhargr_0 wrote:
@lionrose.7 wrote:They have no Money because some stupid DHS took this man away from his job and locked him and his family up, he was a tax payer
Thats you opinion , it's not mine ........ They lost countless appeals, the refused to leave Au, so the DHS ( Au gov ) took the appropriate action ........ Nothing stupid about that at all
If he was paying tax, he was a taxpayer. That's a fact, not an opinion.
And if the reason he has no money is because the Government prevented him from working, that is also a fact, not an opinion.
19-04-2020 10:22 PM - edited 19-04-2020 10:27 PM
@lionrose.7 wrote:They have no Money because some stupid DHS took this man away from his job and locked him and his family up, he was a tax payer
More than likely it was one or more immigration lawyers that coached the family hoping to fool the authorities, and if need be prolong deportation, and manipulate the system to their advantage.
More than likely the decision to have children was part of the agenda.
The media then gets involved, beats up the story, often being more of fiction than fact.
It was claimed that the family had not been truthful in visa applications and evidence suggested they came to Australia as economic refugees which do not meet the requirements.
I have no misgivings of allowing genuine refugees into this country (with limitations).
on 19-04-2020 11:56 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@lyhargr_0 wrote:
@lionrose.7 wrote:They have no Money because some stupid DHS took this man away from his job and locked him and his family up, he was a tax payer
Thats you opinion , it's not mine ........ They lost countless appeals, the refused to leave Au, so the DHS ( Au gov ) took the appropriate action ........ Nothing stupid about that at all
If he was paying tax, he was a taxpayer. That's a fact, not an opinion.
And if the reason he has no money is because the Government prevented him from working, that is also a fact, not an opinion.
If he was working, he had the opportunity to put money away for his legal defence ..... that also is another fact
So where is the money he had earned/saved for his defence?
on 20-04-2020 12:02 AM
@jetho1680 wrote:
@lionrose.7 wrote:They have no Money because some stupid DHS took this man away from his job and locked him and his family up, he was a tax payer
More than likely it was one or more immigration lawyers that coached the family hoping to fool the authorities, and if need be prolong deportation, and manipulate the system to their advantage.
More than likely the decision to have children was part of the agenda.
The media then gets involved, beats up the story, often being more of fiction than fact.
It was claimed that the family had not been truthful in visa applications and evidence suggested they came to Australia as economic refugees which do not meet the requirements.
I have no misgivings of allowing genuine refugees into this country (with limitations).
So the family decided on this avenue many years ago?
Get real.
on 20-04-2020 12:10 AM
@lyhargr_0 wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@lyhargr_0 wrote:
@lionrose.7 wrote:They have no Money because some stupid DHS took this man away from his job and locked him and his family up, he was a tax payer
Thats you opinion , it's not mine ........ They lost countless appeals, the refused to leave Au, so the DHS ( Au gov ) took the appropriate action ........ Nothing stupid about that at all
If he was paying tax, he was a taxpayer. That's a fact, not an opinion.
And if the reason he has no money is because the Government prevented him from working, that is also a fact, not an opinion.
If he was working, he had the opportunity to put money away for his legal defence ..... that also is another fact
So where is the money he had earned/saved for his defence?
Do you understand what legal representation costs? Far more than an average wage earner can afford.
I'm fairly sure he wasn't making much more than enough to live on. Several hundreds of thousands of dollars probably weren't available. Do you have that available if you fall foul of the law? I don't care how law abiding you are, there is always something (or someone) that can trip you up, regardless of your innonence. Normally criminal prosecutions don't result in costs being awarded.
So if you're falsely accused of something criminal, you don't get your legal fees back, even if you are proven innocent.
Yet another instance of people pontificating on matters they have no idea about.
20-04-2020 12:13 AM - edited 20-04-2020 12:15 AM
I think Australia is the only country during this pandemic that would persist in making an immigartion case against one innocuous family , the last behind the wire on the island , who has probably more community support and goodwill where they had been residing than many citizens