The Appalling Asylum Seeker Conditions

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This is disgraceful and I can only hope the people who are in charge fix this asap.

An asylum seeker who was moved off Nauru to give birth is being locked up for 18 hours a day in a detention centre in Brisbane while her week-old baby remains in hospital with respiratory problems.

The case of Latifa, a 31-year-old woman of the persecuted Rohingya people of Myanmar, has shocked churches and refugee advocates.

She was separated from her baby on Sunday, four days after a caesarean delivery, and has since been allowed to visit him only between 10am and 4pm in Brisbane's Mater Hospital. The boy, named Farus, has respiratory problems and needs round-the-clock medical care.

Latifa is confined to the Brisbane Immigration Transit Accommodation, 20 minutes away, where her husband and two children, four and seven, are being held.

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Latifa's husband, Niza, is not allowed to visit the child at all, according to people in daily contact with the family.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asylum-seeker-mother-kept-from-newborn-baby-in...

[cherry*135]

A different spin on it:

Morrison had good reason to end any discussion on the topic of Latifa. She was this week being locked up for 18 hours a day in detention in Brisbane while her week-old baby remains in hospital with respiratory problems.

Some refugee advocates believe the enforced separation - not common among the many women who have left Christmas Island to give birth in Darwin - was a result of her willingness to speak to the media on one occasion through a translator.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/immigration-minister-scott-morrison-hiding-beh...

[*crikey*mate*]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Are you Crikey? May I refer to you as that? 

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 you may refer to me by my current user ID. according to livish, they're the rules.

[cherry*135]

Asylum seekers  - same rules for everyone, no matter which country they come from. To suggest one nationality should get preference over others - isn't going to happen. Beside who would decide which ones should have preferential treatment?  how long would it take to decide?

As my*mum pointed out, aslyum seekers are not always genuine and can claim to be from a different country then they originated from...without papers it takes a long time for authorities to confirm who they are.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@punch*drunk wrote:

Were they only in the tents on Nauru temporarily because the buildings got burnt by rioters?  I believe it didn't take very long to get the burnt buildings (flat packs from Aust) to be rebuilt.

I found a newsletter from the builders and they expected it to take 5 months to rebuild. Which sounds about right, the first of the previous buildings was finished in Feb this year and the last was completed in June.

So if the time frame was correct I imagine they should have been finishing about now. I wonder whether the project was ever finished or was it put on hold or completely stopped with the new policy.

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from that link, it looks like Nauru is intended to be a tent city, but Manus has more permanent structures/

[punch*drunk]

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@am*3 wrote:

A different spin on it:

Morrison had good reason to end any discussion on the topic of Latifa. She was this week being locked up for 18 hours a day in detention in Brisbane while her week-old baby remains in hospital with respiratory problems.

Some refugee advocates believe the enforced separation - not common among the many women who have left Christmas Island to give birth in Darwin - was a result of her willingness to speak to the media on one occasion through a translator.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/immigration-minister-scott-morrison-hiding-beh...

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So she did speak to the media then? I wonder to which media and where that story is?

[*crikey*mate*]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Did you meet any Rohingya people?

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Have you met any asylum seekers or been to a detention centre? a processing centre? a refugee camp?

Have you even the smallest inkling of how to defend a nation? protect its people?

What have you done to advance the plight or cause of any refugee or asylum seeker?

[izabsmiling]

I don't don't know how stateless people prove who they are,where they are from? Do you? How are they granted refugee status if they are considered illegal aliens in their own Country? This family waited 10 years.I've read about the conditions in Malaysia particularly for their people and I can fully understand why they would have risked death again and left both Countries.I would too rather than stay where there was little or no chance for myself and my family.No one seems to want to own these people from the look of it.

Are some Asylum seekers in Malaysia being abused by 'uniforms'? Are some now being told that they can only stay for 6months?

This article mentions a women pregnant with twins..though refers to her as Iranian?.The hospital facilities are mentioned too.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-12/advocates-want-pregnant-asylum-seeker-relocated-from-nauru/501...

We're worried about the survival of those babies post-delivery in these inhumane conditions: communal tents, 50-degree heat and no running water.

Asylum seeker advocate and former midwife Pamela Curr

[cherry*135]

August 2013:

Amnesty International has described the conditions as "inhumane". The government says they're temporary but Nauru's Foreign Minister, Kieren Keke, says permanent structures can't be erected until a dispute among landowners is settled. How long that will take is not clear.

This may refer to the 'third camp' they intend/ed to build.

I am getting confused - the riot reports say accommodation blocks, kitchen block and others were burnt down.. so they did have buildings and they are being replaced?

They have both tents and buildings?..not enough accom in buildings so they use tents as well?

An Immigration Department spokeswoman says detainees burned buildings to the ground, including the accommodation blocks, which can house 600 people.

The health centre and the dining room were also destroyed.

The government in Nauru says 80 per cent of the island detention centre's buildings were destroyed in the riot.

[izabsmiling]

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@my*mum wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Did you meet any Rohingya people?

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Have you met any asylum seekers or been to a detention centre? a processing centre? a refugee camp?

Have you even the smallest inkling of how to defend a nation? protect its people?

What have you done to advance the plight or cause of any refugee or asylum seeker?

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No I haven't.That's why I asked if you had met any Rohinga people.They seems to be most persecuted?

[cherry*135]

Who is crikey referred to in post 357? I can't see any posts made with that ID.

punch - I am not sure if she did actually contact the media herself...details are scant. Although that does raise a good point, re her asking for more visiting hours etc, she would need a translator present to be able to communciate.