on 14-11-2013 03:47 PM
This is disgraceful and I can only hope the people who are in charge fix this asap.
An asylum seeker who was moved off Nauru to give birth is being locked up for 18 hours a day in a detention centre in Brisbane while her week-old baby remains in hospital with respiratory problems.
The case of Latifa, a 31-year-old woman of the persecuted Rohingya people of Myanmar, has shocked churches and refugee advocates.
She was separated from her baby on Sunday, four days after a caesarean delivery, and has since been allowed to visit him only between 10am and 4pm in Brisbane's Mater Hospital. The boy, named Farus, has respiratory problems and needs round-the-clock medical care.
Latifa is confined to the Brisbane Immigration Transit Accommodation, 20 minutes away, where her husband and two children, four and seven, are being held.
Latifa's husband, Niza, is not allowed to visit the child at all, according to people in daily contact with the family.
on 17-11-2013 03:24 PM
@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
I'm not sure what your question is, polksaladallie? I can probably tell you more about what I don't know about.
you get a lot of people with unresolved issues or wanting to take advantage of the vulnerable working in the 'caring professions' as well.
on 17-11-2013 03:27 PM
on 17-11-2013 03:28 PM
@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
All the c&p quoted replies on this thread are doing my head in.
yes, me too.
I can't understand why it takes so long for asylum seekers to be processed. To me that is a far bigger problem than the original OP. it must be horrific to be in limbo for so long and I actually can't blame those who do for rioting in frustration.
Yes it is a massive problem and hard to get an answer on but I am not advocating riots as a solution.
Interestingly after looking up refugees 50 years ago, I saw they rioted and caused damage as well.
No matter what the rules are, I can't call you by your new user name, crikey. I find it bizarre that a member can choose a name which, while not offensive, may have emotive connotations for others, yet you are not allowed to use words like 'seaman' in the correct context in a fertility discussion.
Question re asylum seekers. What happens if their claim for asylum is refused? Do they stay at the camp and keep applying or are they returned to their country of origin?
Polksaladallie, you get a lot of people with unresolved issues or wanting to take advantage of the vulnerable working in the 'caring professions' as well.
on 17-11-2013 03:36 PM
@am*3 wrote:They seem to be most persecuted?
Have you even heard of these people (Rohingya) before reading this story?
That's right and I admitted that.Unfortunately I hadn't heard of Rohingya people.Other groups of people I have heard of as my Step Father's parish are quite involved with supporting refugees and asylum seekers...not heard of the Rohingya people from them though.
More media coverage and public awareness may be needed as the US Holocaust Museum seems to have recognised.
http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=123038
17-11-2013 03:36 PM - edited 17-11-2013 03:40 PM
Some asylum seekers, on arrival, don't have any papers that show their identity or proof as to what country they come from ( some flee in the night and don't have time to grab papers). Those ones it can take a long time to find out, if the person is who they are claiming to be and what country the came from.
Thye could claim to be a farmer when infact they were a terrorist.
For others with correct papers, I don't know either why it can take years to process them. Do the Aust authorities have to wait to get personal information about the aslyum seekers, back from the countries these people fled from?
17-11-2013 03:44 PM - edited 17-11-2013 03:47 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:
@am*3 wrote:They seem to be most persecuted?
Have you even heard of these people (Rohingya) before reading this story?
That's right and I admitted that.Unfortunately I hadn't heard of Rohingya people.Other groups of people I have heard of as my Step Father's parish are quite involved with supporting refugees and asylum seekers...not heard of the Rohingya people from them though.
More media coverage and public awareness may be needed as the US Holocaust Museum seems to have recognised.
The Rohingya and the OIC: A voice against the ethnic cleansing?The issue of Rohingya Muslims is certainly an important platform that brings the OIC together16 Nov 2013.http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=123038
They are unlikely to ever be able to settle in Australia. They will have to accept that, if they head this way on a boat.. Nauru or Manus Island will be their home.
on 17-11-2013 03:58 PM
There ya go, I just had to make an impromptu "mummy's taxi" run.
My cargo was neither a prisoner or a detainee, nor, to my knowledge are they flagged by authorities as being a risk for either flight or harm etc.
Mr 17 asked if I would give him a lift to the pick up point for a Bible Camp he is going on (his carer had rang and said she was caught at the other end of the coast and for him to make his own way to the PUP and she would meet him there.)
here's what I had to do.
for LC,
(also in my care atm)
ring neighbour to ensure they were home and ask if they would be ok to "keep an ear out" as LC would be home alone for a bit (maybe an hour)
check LC had phone credit so she could ring neighbour etc if in need,
give LC the "do not go swimming, don't turn anything on/plug anything in etc lecture.
For MC
he was at work, due to come home.
ring him and let him know what was happening
make sure he was ok to get home
make sure he had phone credit ICOE
For BC - the one I was actually transporting...
check he had phone credit (he didn't, so had to organize that)
check he had enough money for 3 days at camp (he didn't he had $20 and a bag of lollies)
check he had money or provisions for condoms (well he is a 17 yr old boy off to camp with other uni students, even if it is bible camp)
(he doesn't, apparently they don't do that kind of thing - I gave him an extra $20 anyway)
check he had the harness and sash and coat for his dog
Then I actually had to take him there, only had to drop him off at the front door, and then drove home. (about an hour round trip)
and that was just to get a kid to a pick up point who is not in need of security etc.....
I'm thinking there's probably a bit more involved in organizing impromptu visits (including supervision) for detainees and prisoners.....
17-11-2013 04:02 PM - edited 17-11-2013 04:05 PM
waits for a mod or someone to post 'off topic' ....
oh sorry *instert id*That is to show how long it would take to get to the hospital if your baby was there and sick
on 17-11-2013 04:03 PM
@punch*drunk wrote:
@am*3 wrote:A different spin on it:
Morrison had good reason to end any discussion on the topic of Latifa. She was this week being locked up for 18 hours a day in detention in Brisbane while her week-old baby remains in hospital with respiratory problems.
Some refugee advocates believe the enforced separation - not common among the many women who have left Christmas Island to give birth in Darwin - was a result of her willingness to speak to the media on one occasion through a translator.
So she did speak to the media then? I wonder to which media and where that story is?
but that's just it, there are established routines and protocols for those coming from Christmas Island to Darwin. The hospitals are used to it and undoubtedly trained to handle it, as are the facility and supporting staff.
plus they say 'it is not common", not that it doesn't happen. and one has to wonder how many actually required additional visiting access anyway, how many infants were kept in hospital after their mothers had been released.
probably why the separation wasn't common, but does happen....
17-11-2013 04:30 PM - edited 17-11-2013 04:32 PM
@my*mum wrote:
@izabsmiling wrote:Are you Crikey? May I refer to you as that?
you may refer to me by my current user ID. according to livish, they're the rules.
I hope that you may be able to think about what you are expecting posters to do in expecting everyone to refer to you as my mum.
be she alive or dead I will only ever refer to My Mum as my Mum.
I feel that it would just be consderate of you to change your id.